Continuation: Exporting Reptiles From Australia

[gillsy]

Fair call but why add another layer to the mix, by bringing exotics you have the added risk of bringing in diseases we don't have. Which will happen.

[baggins]

i think it would be the other way around - australians would be buying up all the bitchin' exotic reptiles from around the world. check out this awesome example of a leopard gecko...

or perhaps a sulcata tortoise?

australia is behind the times. i mean come on people, you import all varieties of exotic humans by the boat load, of which many do not assimilate and go on to become an environmental pain in the ahrse, yet you're all scared of bringing in exotic reptiles for the pet trade?? LOL.

[maxPOWERS]

we wouldnt make that much money as u only need one successfully mating pair to breed. then why would they have to buy them from australia.
also non native animals are a no no in any country, they may pose a threat to native animals.
look at the burmese pythons for example in the everglades( dont burn me if i have gotten that wrong).

[Dannyboi]

You got it right but the situation is no longer as bad there are some people saying that the burms are dying. I swear this kind of post has been done to death. Australia may be 'behind the times' but because of that we have no where near as many ecological issues.

[Elapidae1]

In comparrison to?

[Dannyboi]

Hawaii. For one.

The Hawaiian islands (and surrounding waters) are home to five species of amphibians and 28 species of reptiles - and of these only five species are indigenous.

[Elapidae1]

For all I know they only ever had 5 indigenous species. A higher number of introduced species does not necessarily mean the ecological impact is greater.
Considering we have one of, if not the highest extinction rate in the world at the moment, I'd say we have a problem.

[gillsy]

I'm thinking Guam, does it have any of the endemic species left ?

[Dannyboi]

For all I know they only ever had 5 indigenous species. A higher number of introduced species does not necessarily mean the ecological impact is greater.

But all the introduced pest pets are killing the native bugs.

[longqi]

Only regarding export
there was a study done a few years ago
It showed that if galahs and cockatoos were legally exported instead of being shot the minimum profit for the
department was $35,000,000 per annum
This was more than their annual budget at that time

[dangles]

the biggest issue with this will be quarantine, we are told to quarantine any new snake into our collection for at least 6 mths as some diseases can take this long to show symptoms. For any incoming snake this would mean sitting ata quarantine area for 6 months at least before being released for the purchaser. With new enclosure sizes looking at being implemented by deccw in nsw, Quarantine areas would have to ensure they had very large enclosures to house the possible influx of snakes not to mention feeding etc

[gillsy]

the biggest issue with this will be quarantine, we are told to quarantine any new snake into our collection for at least 6 mths as some diseases can take this long to show symptoms. For any incoming snake this would mean sitting ata quarantine area for 6 months at least before being released for the purchaser. With new enclosure sizes looking at being implemented by deccw in nsw, Quarantine areas would have to ensure they had very large enclosures to house the possible influx of snakes not to mention feeding etc

Yeah don't think that will happen now with the change in government... I think it will be scrapped.

Only regarding export
there was a study done a few years ago
It showed that if galahs and cockatoos were legally exported instead of being shot the minimum profit for the
department was $35,000,000 per annum
This was more than their annual budget at that time

I'd rather them shot then be shipped up and sent over, can you imagine the stress on the bird.

[dangles]

either way importing here legally would mean a stint in quarantine where they will need to house and feed at your cost. For most these costs would far outweigh the cost/effort to get one legally

[D3pro]

Fair call but why add another layer to the mix, by bringing exotics you have the added risk of bringing in diseases we don't have. Which will happen.

All the diseases are already here, it will be a matter of buying from the right person like you would here.
Frankly I don't care much, I just feel that the government is playing favourites.

Why yes too fish, birds, cows, horses, cats, dogs, rats, etc. and no to reptiles and amphibians?

[getarealdog]

either way importing here legally would mean a stint in quarantine where they will need to house and feed at your cost. For most these costs would far outweigh the cost/effort to get one legally

Done it with parrots, they wanted the macaws etc & they paid for them & now they have fresh blood, there was a register (NERBS) for all the imports & then they stopped the shipments & then the gov. decided to stop the register-go figure that one out. Now don't know who has exotic birds & now who is to say they came from the "imports". Had a system then they canned it!