Reptiles Australasia Issue 3...

[Ned_fisch]

Wow, seems like karma is making its move?

I don't claim to know what has happened behind the scenes with this magazine, but when you hear the same story told time and time again there has to be some truth to it?

I'm glad I stuck to my instinct and didn't subscribe.

I'm with you on that one Jay, I have the same thoughts and feel that karma has shown itself.

[Revell13]

My issue is that I paid for a subscription. Re-imburse me or give me what I paid for. Maybe a class action should be taken if they don't deliver. I do not like being ripped off!

Sarcasm is hard to portray over the internet (or in text messages) help me out here?

[Sdaji]

For a moment I had the same thought about Joy's post, thinking it was a bit of a low blow, but then I realised she did have a good reason to be saying what she did. I was involved with Reptiles Australia for a number of years, didn't like where it was going and had issues with what was going on (I won't go into detail) so washed my hands of it. Less than a year later it went down (which actually surprised me at the time). In my position I saw a lot of what was going on, it didn't just affect the people at fault or even just the people like myself who had been involved with Reptiles Australia but had done no wrong, but it also (unfairly) rubbed off on Scales and Tails because it shook consumer confidence. Not everyone understands the situation as well as the ones who watch it closely.

I would not go out of my way to publicly badmouth anyone from Reptiles Australia or Reptiles Australasia whether they deserve it or not, but sometimes it's necessary to make it clear that your situation is unrelated to someone else's problem, because otherwise people will lump you in the same category or make certain assumptions simply because they don't know any better. Never underestimate the ability of the reptile community to create a fictional story which makes someone look bad!

I don't think Joy was being at all malicious. Frankly, she doesn't have any need to bring out the daggers here anyway.

[Joy from S & T]

Thank you Sdaji for seeing things as they are.

[Sdaji]

No worries, it's easy for people who have been involved in the reptile magazine scene, but hopefully others will get a bit of an understanding too. It's obviously an easy situation for people to misinterpret.

[Pythoninfinite]

I certainly ended up with a lot of egg on my face with my blind support of this publication, but as Sdaji suggests happened to him with Reptiles Australia, serious concerns emerged for me as time went on. Actually, the publication wasn't the problem - it had huge potential, but was probably doomed from the outset for reasons not related to the magazine itself.

I've learned a serious lesson or two in the past year

Still no answer to the question I posed in this thread?

Jamie

[bk201]

You guise are annoying you make people look bad but wont give us the dirt on the situation...

[Waterrat]

You guise are annoying you make people look bad but wont give us the dirt on the situation...

LOL If you post like that again (your brilliant English), you may get some dirt.

[hrafna]

You guise are annoying you make people look bad but wont give us the dirt on the situation...

you didn't ask nicely!

[Pythoninfinite]

You guise are annoying you make people look bad but wont give us the dirt on the situation...

The intention of the thread was to enquire whether issue 3 of Reptiles Australasia is any closer to publication than it was when promises were made that it would be going to print "in a week or two" as was suggested some weeks ago, along with issue 4 "soon thereafter..." Or if it is in fact defunct at this point in time. There have been promises aplenty for the past 5 months, but none of them have been kept. Although I terminated my association with RA in early January, as editor of the first two issues, and therefore still closely linked by some to the publication, I think it's only fair that those members here who forked out for quite expensive subscriptions need to know asap what the prospects of them getting their four paid-for magazines, so that they can take whatever action is open to them to retrieve their money.

People make themselves look bad bk201, but this is about the magazine, nothing else.

Jamie

[Poggle]

Joy and Sdaji,

I wholeheartingly agree with you both. Consumer SALES plummeted after the last down turn, and Joy i do praise you on the efforts of the S&T team. I had some invested interest in RA and i was a little bit shocked initially but then i was informed of some information. I would like to see people get their issues. At the end of the day i would like to see the magazine survive with in a "POSITIVE" way only. All the nonsense with it needs to stop.

Those concerned about Joys response.. let me give you a scenerio..... you bredd GTPS, so do others, suddenly the others are all diseased and alot of people lost money on them, would you trust more of these??

Good luck getting your answers people and your editions.

[Stevo2]

Is the magazine a sponsor of APS? If not, given they're a commercial entity, how on earth are we allowed to even talk about them and surely this thread needs to be deleted??

Rules is rules people....

[Pythoninfinite]

I don't think anyone's breaking the rules if enquiring about the whereabouts of their magazine or the viability of subscriptions - it's perfectly valid question if your expected product, and one which has been paid for, is over 5 months late.

The owner of the magazine is a member here and frequently online - he would be well able to address members' and subscribers' concerns as expressed here.

Jamie

[hrafna]

taken from the mag's facebook page.

[hide][top]Reptiles Australasia

March 19

Dear Subscribers,

We are facing a massive hurdle in delivering future issues. However, we are committed to developing the magazine and will not be deterred.

As planned, we were endeavouring to do an article on “Reptile DNA”. As it turned out, our story took a certain path and we discovered that legally held animals had been seized and disposed of by wildlife authorities on the basis of falsified... DNA reports.

On February 15, 2012 NSW NPWS and heavily armed New South Wales Police executed 5 search warrants on premises in Sydney and seized all of our computers and storage media. The applicant for 3 search warrants was the same person we allege falsified DNA reports.

NSW NPWS also seized 14 Carphodactylus laevis. A further warrant was executed on February 29, 2012 and 15 sub-adult albino Morelia spilota were confiscated. No charges have been laid or are expected to be laid in relation to any wildlife and we are seeking the return of our property including our computers and storage media.

We shall have the next issue of the magazine published as soon as practicable and will maintain the same high quality of production and content.

Thankyou for supporting us whilst we overcome this hurdle,

Neil Simpson
CEO Reptiles Australasia

not sure of any updates since this was posted on march 19.

[Pythoninfinite]

This took place 5 months ago, so it should be clear by now when Issue 3 can go to print.

Jamie