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It would be great if there was a little more competition in the Australian market, I really enjoyed reading Reptiles Australia and the photos alone made Reptiles Australasia a good buy.
I'm not having a dig here but I can't say I am a fan the only Australian magazine left, I feel my $11 is better spent on overseas magazines which have 10 times the content with half the ads.
- 23-Jul-12, 08:17 AM #47
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I personally dont find Scales & Tails has over the top advertisements and the quality of the articles that are topical to keeping and breeding reptiles in Australia are excellent quality.
besides $10-11 every two months is nothing these days for people with a passion about their hobby.
Last edited by Colin; 23-Jul-12 at 01:24 PM. Reason: my poor spelling and grammar
- 23-Jul-12, 10:12 AM #49
I agree with you Colin, the overseas mags I have found are riddled with adds and the print quality dismal at bestKeeper and/or breeder of various geckos, small dragons, Broad-banded Sand Swimmers, RHD Womas, Jungles and Colubrids
I've been pretty close to the action with RA since its inception, so some may view my opinions as somewhat subjective... However, RA was launched facing a cliff with the engine running, in gear but with a foot on the clutch... instead of changing into reverse and backing away from the cliff, the clutch was dropped at Issue 1, and by the time Issue 2 came out, it was at maximum revs and in top gear... and over it went! I smile ironically when I think of this - it reminds me of Thelma & Louise ... a relentless but absolutely inevitable rush to the abyss . I was in the passenger seat, hated the driving, so jumped out just in time... got a few scratches and bruises, but I'm sure I'll survive lol.
I think there's value in any authoritative publication, regardless of origin, but S&T fills a very important niche for keepers in this country, and you can rely on it to be on time every issue.
Bluetongue1,I don't know how you came to that conclusion.My comment was towards certain people making out they were victims in the whole episode then banging on incessantly about being hard done by as you probably already know anyway,so don't try and twist what I wrote.The entire episode is pretty pathetic from all directly involved.
Last edited by Ramsayi; 23-Jul-12 at 11:14 AM.
I love the personal aspect of S&T. Nice to see some people in contributing to articles that you do actually know.
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- 23-Jul-12, 11:15 AM #53
Whilst S&T is a good read and definitely better than a lot of the O/S magazines available in most newsagents, it is still not great and in my opinion is only considered the best magazine for Australia because, well, it is the only magazine in Australia at present..
What does it say about S&T magazine when RA only had 2 issues and was already getting regarded as the best reptile magazine in Australia by many keepers, both new and old..?
Regardless of what has happened to the person(s) running the magazine, this had no effect on the content and quality of both issues which was made obvious by keepers' reactions/thoughts on the mag. Yes a lot of people complained about too much exotic content etc. but it's just common sense to assume that a magazine which was titled "Reptiles Australasia" was not going to contain images, articles and ads that were 100% Australian, as it was aimed at an international market as opposed to an Australian only market...
I purchase a S&T magazine every now and then, and whilst it is a good read, I am still yet to be persuaded to subscribe - whereas I was ready and willing to subscribe to RA after the 1st issue... If RA didn't go down as quickly as it did, then S&T would have been in big trouble by a magazine that was to be delivered only 4 times a year. And judging by the many posts made by S&T during the time of RA's apparent demise (more posts in that week than they had in a few months or so...), one could only assume they felt this as well and were threatened.
P.S I am in absolutely no way affiliated with any of the magazines mentioned, so the above is an extremely unbiased opinion.
Last edited by SamNabz; 23-Jul-12 at 11:19 AM.Cheers, Sam
Regardless of the relative qualities of both magazines, effective promotion of RA was almost non-existent, and subscriptions were dismal - not surprising when you consider RA Issue 2 was almost 4 months late. You can't blame people for being skeptical.
I don't believe there was any threat to S&T - the respective markets were very different. RA was not going to go be a husbandry magazine by any measure. Subscription to one or the other was very unlikely to become an either/or situation.
I think I just became a "certain person" !
Last edited by Pythoninfinite; 23-Jul-12 at 12:28 PM.
Late or not Jamie, the point I was making is that there was a lot of talk going around that RA was the best herp magazine to hit Australian shelves in a long time after just 2 issues (even though issue #2 was late..) by many keepers of all ages and experiences - which to me, says something about S&T magazine.
As for being skeptical about the magazine after an extremely late issue, subscribers were definitely within their right to be. But had that issue, and every other thereafter, come out on time, then it would have been a totally different scenario and I do believe it could & would have put a dent in S&T..
Yes S&T and RA's content were different, I completely agree that their respective markets were different and reach out to different levels/genre of keepers, but given the choice between S&T which is issued monthly(?) compared to RA being issued only 4 times a year (on time), even though their subscription price is of higher value for less issues, I would pick RA without hesitation and know many others who would go the same way.Cheers, Sam
The promotion and advertisement of RA might have been minimal, but there were bound to be some flaws as with any new company regardless of who's running it.
As you mentioned, they tried to maintain some sort of exclusivity which could well be a reason for the lack of advertisement. In which case it might not have necessarily been a bad thing to try out right from the start. Advertising it on the forums was obviously a way to get hobbyists involved and for us to know it is out there before placing it on a newsagents shelf for anyone to pick up.
If more issues were in the works and they felt they needed more subscribers in order to maintain the quality of the magazine, they could have then chosen to put more effort into advertising the company and magazine more in order to do so..Cheers, Sam
Beleive me ... Reptiles Australasia was made available to many prominent Herpetologists and Wildlife Organisations, as well as other interested folk
(without cost to them and by courtesy of the owner) and received EXCELLENT comment. Not one negative remark came back.
It was marketed in a different way I beleive.
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