HELP! heat lamp, electricity

[Crystal..Discus]

I've found that reptiles do quite well in the wild without the sun being run on a thermostat.

...you're kidding, right?








Right?

[Twitch_80]

What sort of thermostat is it? Im sure someone on here will have one if not a number of people and you should be able to get some help setting it up.

[Stingray01]

That's a very, very poor argument. Even the "experts" who don't use thermostats with their heat globes don't use 100w globes. Why anyone would think giving such advice to new reptile keepers is a good idea I have no idea

Yeah that would be why I said it seems like quite a lot of heat so to test and adjust with a smaller globe. And what?

[Twitch_80]

It will also be cheaper to run on a thermostat

[Stingray01]

...you're kidding, right?








Right?

Yeah not bothering

[Crystal..Discus]

Yeah that would be why I said it seems like quite a lot of heat so to test and adjust with a smaller globe. And what?

He's using a 100w bulb in a small, confined space with very little room for his reptiles "to move out of the sun." In the wild they have the ability to move underground, under objects that don't permeate, conduct or contain heat, and aren't exposed to ambient temps greater than 50'C. The comparison was illogical and dangerous to new keepers who assume or don't know the temperatures those bulbs are capable of reaching. Before suggesting such an anology, you should perhaps rethink your choice of words.

That's what she meant.

Just curious OP, but what prompted you to look for a 100W bulb for your enclosure? I find that anything less than 60W creates a very comfortable temperature gradient for my pythons (all of which have thermostats.)

[Stingray01]

He's using a 100w bulb in a small, confined space with very little room for his reptiles "to move out of the sun." In the wild they have the ability to move underground, under objects that don't permiate or contain heat, and aren't exposed to ambient temps greater than 50'C. The comparison was illogical and dangerous to new keepers who assume or don't know the temperatures those bulbs are capable of reaching. Before suggesting such an anology, you should perhaps rethink your choice of words.

That's what she meant.

Sorry I missed the part where he said it was a confined space and his reptile would have very little room to move. He must have pmed that extra info to you. If you take a second and get off your high horse you can read how I said if you provide a large enough enclosure for you snake to thermo regulate and a place to escape the heat he doesn't need to stress. In a large in closure funny enough they also have the "ability to move" fancy that.

[Crystal..Discus]

Sorry I missed the part where he said it was a confined space and his reptile would have very little room to move. He must have pmed that extra info to you. If you take a second and get off your high horse you can read how I said if you provide a large enough enclosure for you snake to thermo regulate and a place to escape the heat he doesn't need to stress. In a large in closure funny enough they also have the "ability to move" fancy that.

You're comparing the wild to an enclosure. You also don't seem to understand the concept of ambient and gradient temperatures. There in is the problem we had with your post. I was clarifying and explaining why it was wrong to do so on Note's behalf. No need to get snippy

Wild =/= enclosure.

Sun =/= 100W bulb in close quarters.

OP, if you're with Origin, I'd strongly suggest switching providers if you're going to be running it 24/7 (which I hope you won't be.) Their price hikes have taken effect and your bill will probably scare the pants off you.

[Stingray01]

You're comparing the wild to an enclosure. There in is the problem we had with your post. I was clarifying and explaining why it was wrong to do so on Note's behalf. No need to get snippy

Don't we try to replicate their enclosures to "the wild". Or is that just me?

[notechistiger]

Must be one big enclosure to escape the heat from a 100w globe. A typical enclosure for a spotted python (even an adult) isn't big enough. I'm sorry, but putting some logic into posts isn't really that hard.

[Stingray01]

Must be one big enclosure to escape the heat from a 100w globe. A typical enclosure for a spotted python (even an adult) isn't big enough. I'm sorry, but putting some logic into posts isn't really that hard.

The OP must have told you the height of his enclosure than? And the distance from the heat source to the basking site.

[Crystal..Discus]

The OP must have told you the height of his enclosure than? And the distance from the heat source to the basking site.

Mate if you have a large enclosure with enough room for the python to regulate its own body heat I wouldn't stress too much about the thermostat.

Just leave him be. It's obvious he doesn't care about giving out accurate information to new and inexperienced keepers.

Look up any reptile forum and you'll understand why what you're saying in irresponsible. We have a few great threads on here about the dangers of not using a thermostat with any type of heat source (especially one capable of reaching extreme temps.)

[Stingray01]

Just leave him be. It's obvious he doesn't care about giving out accurate information to new and inexperienced keepers.

Look up any reptile forum and you'll understand why what you're saying in irresponsible. We have a few great threads on here about the dangers of not using a thermostat with any type of heat source.

And you will find the majority are with heat mats. If a globe over heats it will blow.

Don't know how my reptiles ever survived so long without your responsible advice.

[Crystal..Discus]

Don't know how my reptiles ever survived so long without your responsible advice.

By luck, obviously. You have five people in the thread telling OP to get a thermostat, and you arguing the "she'll be right" angle despite the fact a 100W bulb will reach 250'C before "blowing."

I'm responsible because I actually give a damn about my animals, but I'm obviously the one in the wrong.

[notechistiger]

Something about arguing with trolls (or was it idiots?) over the internet. Let's hope the OP (and other newbies around) has access to some actual logic in this regard