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    Pet shop advice vs. APS advice

    So I have a year old (just under a meter) male bredli who I love to death and want to do the right thing for.
    I've bought him a big tank (4ft, a bit big for him at the moment I know) which I have just started setting up and I went out today to pick up some supplies..
    I am currently in Cairns at the moment and the chick at the petshop gave me some advice that I wanted to double check

    1. I don't need any heating up here.
    2. I need a UVA/UVB light for him
    3. He's fine without heat even in the aircon

    I admit I am not sure what to do with heating up here.. but people in the petshops who give reptile advice make my skin crawl for some reason and I always like to double check.

    Thanks in advance!!
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    Every reptile needs a heat source. You do not need UVA/UVB.
    It may be different in a hot climate, best to check with peeps that live up there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by felidae View Post
    So I have a year old (just under a meter) male bredli who I love to death and want to do the right thing for.
    I've bought him a big tank (4ft, a bit big for him at the moment I know) which I have just started setting up and I went out today to pick up some supplies..
    I am currently in Cairns at the moment and the chick at the petshop gave me some advice that I wanted to double check

    1. I don't need any heating up here.id still use heat [ refering to your question 3]
    2. I need a UVA/UVB light for him you dont need a uv light , but theres no harm using one .
    3. He's fine without heat even in the aircon , ill say it needs heat if the room is airconed

    I admit I am not sure what to do with heating up here.. but people in the petshops who give reptile advice make my skin crawl for some reason and I always like to double check.

    Thanks in advance!!
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    Thanks for your help Fay and Jas - I did dismiss a lot of what she was saying but it's made me uneasy about heating.
    I think a good thermostat is definitely in order
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    Quote Originally Posted by FAY View Post
    Every reptile needs a heat source. You do not need UVA/UVB.
    It may be different in a hot climate, best to check with peeps that live up there.
    not every reptile needs an artificial heat source, but your pet will be happier and healthier with a thermostatically controlled heat source.
    Fay is spot one in regards to UV.
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    just let the thermostat do the work. if its hot it wont turn on the heat and if its cold(aircon) then it will kick in and get the needed temp. i think only diamonds need uva/uvb and even then ive heard of people not using them with diamond and still have no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felidae View Post
    So I have a year old (just under a meter) male bredli who I love to death and want to do the right thing for.
    I've bought him a big tank (4ft, a bit big for him at the moment I know) which I have just started setting up and I went out today to pick up some supplies..
    I am currently in Cairns at the moment and the chick at the petshop gave me some advice that I wanted to double check

    1. I don't need any heating up here.
    2. I need a UVA/UVB light for him
    3. He's fine without heat even in the aircon

    I admit I am not sure what to do with heating up here.. but people in the petshops who give reptile advice make my skin crawl for some reason and I always like to double check.

    Thanks in advance!!
    To put it plainly the chick in the petshop is a moron.

    You need to heat as you would any other snake kept in an air conditioned environment to provide a basking spot and gradient.
    You dont need UV though some prefer to use it "just in case". Its an unnecessary expense in my opinion.

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    Yes you still need heat, especially if it's in a air-conditioned room, just make sure you have a thermostat, so you don't cook your snake if it does gets to hot.

    No, snakes don't need UVA/UVB light (there nocturnal remember), pet shops will tell you that so you spend more money in there shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echiopsis View Post
    To put it plainly the chick in the petshop is a moron.
    Haha, yeah I got my suspicions when I walked in and asked to look at the thermostats and she handed me a little $13 exo-terra thermometer and said that was all I needed.
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    Well what are your room temps? Bredli's can happily sit in a 35+ degree hot spot. You might just want a low watt heat source like a heat chord.

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    Not all pet shops give bad advice and there is some REALLY bad advice given on here from time to time , but I suggest you find a better shop.
    I know people in cairns who still heat their snakes , and of cause in aircon you will have to heat them , Just use a thermo and low wattage so nothing will overheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scleropages View Post
    Not all pet shops give bad advice and there is some REALLY bad advice given on here from time to time , but I suggest you find a better shop.
    I know people in cairns who still heat their snakes , and of cause in aircon you will have to heat them , Just use a thermo and low wattage so nothing will overheat.
    Very true , I have seen some of the dumbest advice offered on here from time to time ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dickyknee View Post
    Very true , I have seen some of the dumbest advice offered on here from time to time ...
    Except in pet shops there's no one to ever correct bad advice.
    That's why I always check here because even if bad advice is given there will be someone there to correct it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felidae View Post
    Except in pet shops there's no one to ever correct bad advice.
    That's why I always check here because even if bad advice is given there will be someone there to correct it.
    Very true , I have seen many times some one has spend big dollars in a pet shop only to come on here and be told they did not need half of it ....
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    Just a kind of on topic question when do you need to use uv/UVB and when don't you need to?

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