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27-Sep-03, 10:31 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: Sydney | | | A greetings and seeking advice
Hey everyone,
Well over the past few weeks I have been carefully considering committing myself to my first python and after some thought have made the decision to go ahead.
My first step was to fire up the internet connection and gather as much information as possible and now after 3 evenings of reading web sites and studying material I can honestly say I'm WAY more confused now than when I started!
I have just today submitted my Licence application form to Parks and Wildlife so have a few days wait for that to be completed and thought I would take that time to learn all I can and pick your brains so to speak. So on with the questions.
I am looking for a python that wont grow much bigger than between 120 -150cm long, nothing to huge and intimidating. Can you suggest which python would be right for me based on this? and if possible where I might find one?
I have a small dog (a Shih Tzu X Maltese), He has grown up surrounded by my pet rats (yes they can be more than food  ), Ferrets and Cockatoo and has never attacked or harassed any of them so I'm fairly sure that he will be OK with the new arrival but just to be sure I was wondering if anyone had had any 'bad experiences' with snakes and dogs. I'm not to worried about this as it's not hard to keep them separated (the bird, rat, and ferret are no longer around)
Finally is there anyone in the sydney area who builds enclosures? or perhaps has a second hand one that they are looking to sell?
Well thats about it I guess, Thanks for all the great information I have picked up from this site and thanks in advance for any help you can give me now.
Jak
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27-Sep-03, 10:45 AM
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I would suggest a Murray Darling (Morelia Metcalfei) as a 1st snake.They are a very docile and gentle python that reaches a common size of what you described but max out at maybe 6+ feet in length.I live in Sydney and build enclosures at reasonable prices (my site is linked below).There is also the reptile barn at St Marys that has all products and supplies.It is a good idea to keep your python seperated from the dog even if they didn't intend on hurting one another it could place stress on the python due to the dog being more active and intimidating it...
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27-Sep-03, 10:48 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Usually on the lounge watching the TV. | | |
As far as enclosures are concerned I have a brand new one for sale at the moment. It is listed in the classifieds section of this site.
Also I can supply you with one built to your specifications if you wish as my Father builds them to order fully fitted and wired. http://www.aussiepythons.com/modules...l&cat=3&de=102
Cheers, Greg.
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27-Sep-03, 02:30 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: Brisbane | | |
build it your self its not that hard just take a look at some of the pics found on this site and on the links. im not a profesional but my friend and i nocked one up in a day with materials from the hardware and it looks pritty dam good and it was a bit of fun too.
if you want your licence back faster ring Parks and Wildlife and say you have a snake lined up allready | 
27-Sep-03, 02:53 PM
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Gee, thanks Luke. Here I am trying to sell an enclosure and you're trying to cruel it for me by telling him to make his own. :wink:
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27-Sep-03, 02:58 PM
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Maybe a good ole childrens python would be worth considering. A lot of people start out with them because they don't grow too big.
Murray Darlings are great snakes as John already suggested.
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27-Sep-03, 03:41 PM
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sorry Greg i just get alot of enjoyment out of making my own stuff, but its not every ones thing plus the mate that helped me just so hapens to be a shop fitter/cabnet maker by trade | 
27-Sep-03, 03:50 PM
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go a coastal python they may grow a lil bigger than what you want but by that time you will be well used to it and there are pritty cheap to pick up with some having the most amazing paterns. i have one (my first) and my mate has two they are all well behaved they hav'nt yet had a problem, even eating (frozen food) and during sheds. all the coastals that i looked at before buying mine and after, seemed to have a wonderfull nature about them. | 
27-Sep-03, 05:25 PM
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COASTALSSSSSSSS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but seriously, yeah, they do
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27-Sep-03, 05:29 PM
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LOL your new ava Steve,
Are you an official customs officer now?
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27-Sep-03, 07:46 PM
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Feeding frozen food *** do u mean defrosted cause frozen will kill em
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27-Sep-03, 10:41 PM
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Oh my got stevo, put some bloody pants on! ewwwww! lol
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28-Sep-03, 01:04 PM
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Now Stevo that is one thing I agree with you wearing gloves for !!!! | 
29-Sep-03, 12:19 AM
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I'll make a suggestion:
1) How much do you want to pay for the snake?
2) What snake do you like the looks of?
I think that is a much better idea that what is small and non threatening. The issue is that certain snakes are friendly and big (ie Olives) and others are small and nasty.
My suggestion is have a look at a lot of snakes and give us a short list of what you like the looks of and then we can help you a bit more specifically. Also give us a price range for the snake as that also limits you as well.
Cheers Hawkeye
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29-Sep-03, 10:07 AM
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Thanks for all the advice so far offered, it has been greatly appreciated.
I have done a bit of research on the Murray-Darling (are they also called Inland Carpets?) and they sound terrific (Thank you for the suggestion) and would definitely consider getting one if they meet the final 2 criteria
a. available in Sydney (or easily gotten to Sydney)
b. Cost less than $200 - $250 (could maybe stretch to $300 but would rather not if possible)
I thought about your question Hawkeye and as mentioned above I would like to keep the initial purchase price to under $250 (hope I'm not being unrealistic here).
As far as looks go I really like the dragon looking head (sorry don't know how to better describe it) that some of the snakes I have seen have. I prefer the look of dark snakes with light markings to plain looking snakes and lighter coloured snakes. I have also revised my max length 2m - 2.5m after some consideration.
Thanks again for all the help that has already been offered and thanks for and advice that is yet to come. I'm so glad I found this site before I went ahead and adopted a snake!
Jak
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