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15-Aug-07, 11:02 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Melb Age/Gender: 17  | | | i have a gippsland water dragon, but lately iv been thinking i should sell him and by 2 hatchie bearded dragon or should i keep the gippy,, what do u think, witch ones are easy to look after, with ones handle better, witch ones are cheaper to look after ect...
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15-Aug-07, 11:08 PM
|  | QUEEN B Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | I reckon Bearded Dragons would be easier to look after, as they don't grow quite so large as a water dragon. They are also better handlers, and can be quite friendly little things. Being smaller; they may also be cheaper to feed, I'm not sure.
But my vote is for beardies  Not that I'm biased or anything 
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15-Aug-07, 11:12 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Melb Age/Gender: 17  | | | | can u keep two adult bearded dragons in a 4x2x2 enclosure?!? | 
15-Aug-07, 11:18 PM
|  | QUEEN B Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | | Couldn't guarantee it for sure, it generally depends on the temperament of each dragon as to whether they are suited for co-habitation or not. Two males is usually a recipe for disaster. Some people keep male/female pairs and female/female pairs together without any dramas. With a male/female pair, the male may harass the female and stress her out, in which case seperation is the best option.
I think a 4 x 2 x 2 would be ok for two adult beardies, but you would have to have a backup enclosure just in case for some reason, the two needed to be separated and housed alone.
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15-Aug-07, 11:19 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Melb Age/Gender: 17  | | | | cool thanks | 
15-Aug-07, 11:44 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Florida Gender:  | | | | Hello Hello,
NO, a 4x2x2 is basically designed for one adult bearded dragon, & is not large enough for 2 adult bearded dragons to live in comfortably. IF you are going to house 2 females, then you will need at least an 8 foot enclosure for them to be comfortable in. There is no guarantee that they will get along anyway. Some do, & most do not.
Tracie | 
15-Aug-07, 11:49 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Melb Age/Gender: 17  | | | | ohhk, ill prob get 2 babys keep them togethier till they get a bit bigger than split them up into two diffrent enclosures.. | 
16-Aug-07, 12:08 AM
|  | QUEEN B Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | | Dunno about 8 foot. I am pretty sure Chris1 keeps Bug and Chub in a 6 foot enclosure. We are considering removing the divider in Diego and Phoenix's enclosure and housing them together in a 6 foot x 2 foot x 2 foot. If a 3x2x2 is suitable for a single adult, then surely a 6x2x2 would suffice for a pair.
We've got a 4.5x2x2 and I still reckon an adult pair would live pretty comfortably in an enclosure that size.
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16-Aug-07, 12:10 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Florida Gender:  | | | | Hello Hello,
Well, that is fine then, just split them up later on. I would separate them when they get around 8-10 inches long then.
Usually they do much better in 8 foot enclosures. That way, they can each have their own basking end without having to "share" with each other. Sometimes, if too crowded, they have to fight for stuff which leads to dominance issues & they can't get away from each other.
Why crowd them if you don't have to? It is nice to be able to provide adequate space for them.
Tracie | 
16-Aug-07, 09:50 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Melb Age/Gender: 17  | | | | what temps should i keep the baskting stop at, and do u have to use thermostats.. and also at night do i turn the heat lights off,, if so should i get a heat rock and use it at night ?? thanks | 
16-Aug-07, 09:54 PM
|  | endangered species Subscriber | Join Date: May-06 Location: kiama Age/Gender: 14  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JKretzs613 Hello,
NO, a 4x2x2 is basically designed for one adult bearded dragon, & is not large enough for 2 adult bearded dragons to live in comfortably. IF you are going to house 2 females, then you will need at least an 8 foot enclosure for them to be comfortable in. There is no guarantee that they will get along anyway. Some do, & most do not.
Tracie |
wow 8ft is like big anouth for a pair of gippys almost and like 3-4 beardies if not more
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17-Aug-07, 12:00 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Florida Gender:  | | | | Hello Hello,
An 8 foot enclosure is perfect for 2 dragons, but not 4. Why does everyone want to crowd them in when they keep them in captivity? I just don't get that! They don't live all crowded in the wild so why do people insist on keeping them like that in captivity? Being too crowded breeds disease & stress anyway, & I wont do that to them.
Yes, you need a digital probe or a temp gun to measure your temperatures with. Do not use those stick on types that you get from petstores as they are not very accurate. For babies, 95F or 35C & 110F or 43C are the recommended temps, but no higher.
Do not use a heat rock as they can burn themselves on it. If you need nighttime heating, then use a ceramic heat emitter for warmth.
I hope this helps.
Tracie | 
17-Aug-07, 12:28 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: Sydney Age/Gender: 18  | | | JKretz, what makes you say 2 beardies in a 4foot enclosure is too crowded? A friend of mine keeps 2 beardies in a 4foot enclosure and they seem not to care about each other's presence, in fact if anything they loved each other. And from what I've seen, they're not such active lizards so they wouldn't constantly run into each other. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just asking as I know nothing about beardies and curious about this  I've been under the impression that beardies love company is all, or am I wrong? | 
17-Aug-07, 01:00 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Melb Age/Gender: 17  | | | | thanks tracie, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,whats a good night time heat??
cheers | 
17-Aug-07, 07:43 AM
|  | is....McLovin Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: northern suburbs-Sydney Age/Gender: 15  | | | | 4x2x2 is what i keep my 2 in. they are fine and they love each other. they sleep together and dont harass each other. they eat together and dont harass each other. they are the best things to watch.
good luck.
matt
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