click clacks

[Chimera]

Originally Posted by snakes01

how long should you keep a hatchling coastal in a click clack before putting it in an enclosure

Back to the original question:

It really depends on the snake and tub size. I keep anything from hatchy/yearling Morelia to full grown Anteresia in tubs. You see some really great enclosure designs when you start incorporating tubs into drawer based systems.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the aggressive responses on this thread. Most of them are self promotional and as the old saying goes, "the empty can rattles the most".

When taking advice look for lines like "this is what I use", "this is how I..." and "I've found that...". These are people offering honest advice. Those that start with "I can't understand why people...", "you should do" or end with "everything else is stupid" are usually posted by people talking loud to mask the fact they have the IQ of a peanut.

[bigi]

Beautifully summed up Chimera, you must be the wise old owl

[Glen B]

Very well said.

[Chappy]

Originally Posted by Chimera

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the aggressive responses on this thread. Most of them are self promotional and as the old saying goes, "the empty can rattles the most".

[Lesa]

Originally Posted by snakes01

how long should you keep a hatchling coastal in a click clack before putting it in an enclosure

I asked the same question recently myself. Our first snake was 8 months old when we got him and went straight into his full size enclosure without a problem. Our newest snake was only 3 months old so I put him in a click clack. I wasn't happy with that as he really seemed to want to climb and I couldn't monitor the heat as well as I could in a larger enclosure (couldn't figrure out how to get the thermostat inside etc....) So I had the hubby build an "in-between" enclosure to last for a year or so until we build his permanent home. It's slightly bigger than some click clacks I've seen but he can climb, have his choice of temps and heights and I can see him without a problem.

Before we moved him into it, I triple checked for any small escapable gaps and made sure the lid was tightly secured. I also gave him a choice of 4 hides. He spent the first couple of days in the hides and from then he's hardly left the branches. The only time he really goes into a hide now is after a feed, to the hide directly under the light, for a day or 2 while he digests (I guess).

The move to the larger enclosure didn't seem to worry HIM at all, and I am a lot hapier as I feel he has has better control over temps, I think he enjoys climbing more and I able to enjoy watching him all the time.

I know others disagree with not using click clacks but I have the room, he's only one of 2 snakes I own so I want to enjoy his enclosure as much as he does and he has shown no signs of stress since the move.

I hope this helps.

[wokka]

I'll dob Slatey in. He tells me he keeps his Darwin hatchies in cages from the start but then again they are made of slate so its just like living in a cave.

[Slateman]

Originally Posted by Auzlizardking

Who made the rule that snake have to be kept in click clacks - - put your snake in it's enclosure when ever you feel your happy to - put two hides in there cardboard or a plastic strip in between the glass and away you go.
We sell hatchie enclosures for this very purpose.

Agree, you can keep hatchies in large enclosure if you have one set up for it.
Just make sure that lot of hiding places is in the cage in various places with different temperature gradient, so hatchie can choose temperature suitable. remember that they do like to make the choice. My hatchies usually stay in warmer hiding after feed, to be able to digest.
I do keep all my hatchies in cages also, but they are small cages made specially for small hatchies. This is my personal choice and I am not saying that this is the best way to keep them. All is good by me if the snake don't get stressed and is comfortable.

[Slateman]

Originally Posted by Chimera

Back to the original question:

It really depends on the snake and tub size. I keep anything from hatchy/yearling Morelia to full grown Anteresia in tubs. You see some really great enclosure designs when you start incorporating tubs into drawer based systems.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the aggressive responses on this thread. Most of them are self promotional and as the old saying goes, "the empty can rattles the most".

When taking advice look for lines like "this is what I use", "this is how I..." and "I've found that...". These are people offering honest advice. Those that start with "I can't understand why people...", "you should do" or end with "everything else is stupid" are usually posted by people talking loud to mask the fact they have the IQ of a peanut.

I love people who post with wisdom . Totally agree with you

[Slateman]

Originally Posted by wokka

I'll dob Slatey in. He tells me he keeps his Darwin hatchies in cages from the start but then again they are made of slate so its just like living in a cave.

You asked if you can keep them in enclosure, and I said yes you can.
it is totally up to you. I use small enclosures, because I make them my self and do make them for that purpose. large enclosure with proper hidings in right spots is perfectly fine and I newer have problem with hatchie not feeding because of that. I told you that also.
if people like to use clicklacks, I am sure that this is fine also. I do that occasionally if there is to many hatchies in beginning of the year and not enough small cages.
There is no point to argue about this. just watch your animal and do right by them. They like to be kept in right temperature, and not always same gradient. I always maintain that is important to give them choice to choose temperature and hiding option. That will keep them happy. if you can do that in clicklack or in enclosure, hatchling don't give a damn.
Clicklac is fine, enclosure set the right way is also fine.
only problem is that some young keepers don't have right idea how to do this.

This forums are here for people to ask questions and get answers.
there is no need to argue and show off. So please don't push your opinions to strongly and stop to be nasty to each other.
Took me 1 hour to clean this topic.

[Auzlizardking]

Well said Slateman - Wish I had put it that way.

[MrSpike]

Since my lasts posts where deleted I would like to re-post one of my comments.

I do not use enclosures for my hatchlings snakes, I use click clacks. I recommend click clacks for all hatchling snakes.

I also do not wish to be associated with Darryn Parker from Parkers enclosures.

Kane