Aussie Pythons and Snakes

Lucas · #16 30-May-06, 12:32 PM

Bring it in to Exotic pets in Kambah before taking it to Jan

Wrasse · #17 30-May-06, 12:33 PM

ok, I just tend to take veterinary advice with a grain of salt, that's all.

Trueblue, Serpenttounge, have you heard of cloudy eyes due to cooling stress ?

purplesnakegirl · #18 30-May-06, 12:44 PM

Lucas, I already asked Pete (he was one of the first people I thought of) and he said to take her to Jan.

Lucas · #19 30-May-06, 12:48 PM

Fingers crossed that it is only stress from cooling

serpenttongue · #20 30-May-06, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrasse

Trueblue, Serpenttounge, have you heard of cloudy eyes due to cooling stress ?

No, i haven't. And i wouldn't expect something like that to even occur in a cold tolerant species like a Diamond. I would expect a respiratory infection to emerge before any problems with the ducts/eyes.

Purplesnakegirl, you say she's 3 years old, but have you had her all that time? If she's a recent purchase perhaps she had Mouth Rot for her previous owner and this is a side effect or re-occurance?? Just a thought!

purplesnakegirl · #21 31-May-06, 10:04 AM

I've had her since she was 10 months old, I know the person who I bought her off very well and she has always been in good health. I've got someone coming over tonight to have a good look at her. I'll let you know how we go.

zen · #22 31-May-06, 12:24 PM

Interesting thread & theories.
I've seen this twice before in wild Diamonds.
Both specimens had only one eye cloudy.

I assumed it was a cataract.

purplesnakegirl · #23 31-May-06, 08:38 PM

It looks like we have found the problem! I had a friend who is very experienced with reptiles come over tonight to look at her. When we opened her mouth it looked very red and there was also a little free blood which was definately not evident when the vet looked at her. My friend was pretty sure it was panophthalmitis the infection that serpentongue and TrueBlue mentioned. He wasn't sure what might have caused it but I remembered that a while back, about 2 months ago, she was holding her nose up in the air sometimes and I didn't think anything of it. Apparently this is a symptom of a respitory infection, I only just found out. So we think that Maybe the panophthalmitis was somehow set off by a respitory infection she had which has now subsided. We are injecting her with antibiotics and vitamins so hopefully she'll be ok.

zen · #24 31-May-06, 08:53 PM

Good to hear. Sounds like you've found the problem.
You're well on the way to recovery, as correct diagnosis is the first step.

You can trust our resident gurus to call it

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Good luck with the rest of the treatment.

Wrasse · #25 31-May-06, 09:06 PM

I am so pleased you got a second opinion and didn't just sit on the first advice.

Glad we have knowledgeable people here happy to give their time and experience to us when needed.

Monkeyman · #26 14-Jun-06, 03:18 PM

you should go back to Jan (i think that's who you said your vet was) and tell her what the prob was...just as a bit of feedback, it may help other concerned snake owners who go to her in the future

hope it clears up soon :wink:

Lurk · #27 14-Jun-06, 04:55 PM

I am from canberra too and i noticed the purple in your enclosure :wink: .My snakes I think have the same problem if you like you can contact me with a pm or my email.

Lurk · #28 14-Jun-06, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas

Bring it in to Exotic pets in Kambah before taking it to Jan

Lucas do you go to Exotics allot? Peter will just tell her to go to Jan.

Lurk · #29 14-Jun-06, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by serpenttongue

It looks like Panophthalmitis which is an infection between the eye and the spectacle. This is caused when the lacrymal ducts in the roof of the mouth become clogged up or infected(as TB said). This usually occurs during/after a snake has had Mouth Rot which can cause the palate to swell, blocking the ducts, or the ducts can become filled with the cheesy crap that Mouth Rot produces. If left untreated, the infection becomes worse and forces the spectacle outwards, which can look as if the eye itself is swollen. The vet will most likely give your snake antibiotics and in severe cases the fluid can be drained from within the spectacle. I would also get the vet to check for any blockages in the Lacrymal ducts.

You seem to know alot about this and a couple of weeks ago I wrote in that I had the same problem with my 2 Coastals.I have since taken them to the vet to be treated and it just so happens to be the same vet that Purplesnake girl goes to.
I am wondering if you could help further in terms of care such as temps and other things concerning the care of my pythons.As the vet can only do so much and I want this kicked in the cloaca.

purplesnakegirl · #30 30-Jun-06, 04:16 PM

*UPDATE* - My diamond is 100% recovered!!! After injecting her with a course of antibiotics and vitamins and also gently rubbing opthalmic ointment onto her eyes everyday she seemed to recover greatly. there was no sign of infection on the roof of her mouth anymore but here eye's were cloudy still but not getting any worse. After her latest shed (a week ago) her eye's are perfect and clear undernieth the old skin and she seems 100%

-Monkeyman- Yeah we called Jan as soon as I had my friend look at her and saw that the problem was serious. We explained what we saw and she agreed that it needed treatment straight away so I went to her first thing the next morning to get the antibiotics.

-Lurk- Sorry just read your post now I've sent you a pm :wink: I hope they're doing ok.