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31-Mar-08, 06:42 PM
|  | Seller | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Brisbane Gender:  | | | Irresponsible pet owner -HELP ASAP! Hi guys
My flatmates snake is in really bad condition at the moment. This will probably make most of you cringe..
5yr old M coastal carpet python, wild born. 7ft snake kept in a small wooden enclosure 74cmL x 41cmH x30cmW
The cage conditions are constantly damp (from the water dish being tipped over and not wiped out) MOULDY (the substrate is newspaper that has gone black with mouldy and the walls have a layer of mould also)
Dirty with fecal matter as he only cleans the tank every 2 months. A heat rock- uncovered (which had been tuned off for awhile until recently). And a hide box which he does not fit into as the box is too small to put something bigger into.
His box is in a hallway where he gets no natural light at all. Only light he receives is an hour or two from the hallway fluro light when it's on at night.
And he is fed 2 Live adult Mice every week and a half.
He has been a very heavy breather and hisses a lot.
Has been sitting in his cold water dish submerged for going on 2 weeks, with just just head poking out. And has white flecks of something on his head
Have suggested to flatmate that he needs a bigger cage on many occasions. -He says he will get around to Eventually (probably a couple of months away)
Have told him numerous times not to feed live mice. As apart from being illegal he probably has got mites from them.
He says he will continue to feed live mice and that he will order some mite spray.
I'm really at a loss of what can be done as he will not take any advice and doesn't have the time to take the snake to the vet.
Does anyone know of a vet that makes home calls? Money no problem.
And is their a likelihood of my reptiles getting mites? His box is 2 rooms away from where my enclosures are. If so any precautions I could take? | 
31-Mar-08, 06:44 PM
|  | Seller | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Brisbane Gender:  | | | | Central brisbane city area btw | 
31-Mar-08, 06:46 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Orange, 2800 Age/Gender: 21  | | | | Tell the NPWS or RSPCA perhaps. WIRES? | 
31-Mar-08, 06:46 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: Townsville Age/Gender: 21  | | | | If you're herps are all on paper, legal and in good condition, make an annonymous complaint to parks and wildlife or the RSPCA, problem solved.......
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31-Mar-08, 06:47 PM
|  | Q Dog Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Redlands, SE Qld Gender:  | | | | That is terrible and he shouldn't be keeping animals if that is indeed his level of care, bloody appalling.
Yes, good chance your snakes could get mites,and if he is too lazy to clean and look after the snake, why don't you do it, for the snake's benefit. How can you stand by and let that happen when you live in the same house? S
Sorry if that seems harsh, but do it for the poor animal that has no choice in being stuck in those terrible conditions.
You say it is wild caught?!?! Is it kept on licence? If not, another reason he shouldn't have it.
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31-Mar-08, 06:48 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Orange, 2800 Age/Gender: 21  | | | | Obviously he doesnt care for it much anymore, prebably a old fad, but everybody loves money. Convince him to sell the animal. | 
31-Mar-08, 06:50 PM
|  | Roadkill Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25  | | | | Does your flatmate have a license? If not, you know you could get into trouble simply because it is on the same premises as your animals?
The mites will eventually make there way to your snakes, no doubt about it.
I'm certain the snake will develop RI very soon if it hasn't already, check its belly, probably already has scale rot too.
If i were you i'd scrub the cage out for starters and buy some TOD. Definitely get it to a vet soon ASAP. As for your flatmate, kick him in the balls and give him a bill for your costs once you've tended to the snake's needs.
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31-Mar-08, 06:52 PM
|  | Willia6 fan Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Victoria Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Kah. Hi guys
Has been sitting in his cold water dish submerged for going on 2 weeks, with just just head poking out. And has white flecks of something on his head | Sounds a lot like mites, I'd keep any of your own reptiles well away.
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31-Mar-08, 06:52 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-03 Location: here | | | | First of all the snake can't get mites from mice. Also if its 5 years old and WC then they must have had it for that long for them to know its age.If its the only snake they have and is infested with mites then there is every chance they may have come from your collection.
Is there anything stopping you from cleaning the cage and setting it up correctly? | 
31-Mar-08, 06:53 PM
|  | Seller | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Brisbane Gender:  | | | | Not harsh at all, I Have cleaned the cage for him on occasion when I couldn't bear him to live in his own poo for so long. But we are trying to force him to take responsibility.
Yes it's kept on a license. Was caught by someone qualified etc. | 
31-Mar-08, 06:57 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Hell (QLD) Gender:  | | | | I agree with mrmikk if its that bad why havent you cleaned the poor animal... complaining about it or having good INTENTIONS are useless as the animal will continue to live in such a bad state. I understand you are appealing for help here but a more constructive way to help would be to take action and clean the poor things cage!
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31-Mar-08, 07:00 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Orange, 2800 Age/Gender: 21  | | | | He sounds like he has the animal for the image. Get a few people to pick at it and pick on its faults and make him not want the animal anymore, then tell him he should sell it and get what its worth in cash, then offer to sell it for him and list it on here with a cheap price..... He will do it.
Then it will find a loving home.... | 
31-Mar-08, 07:01 PM
|  | Seller | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Brisbane Gender:  | | | | So anyone know of a vet that does home visits? That way he'd get some attention and the owner might take head of any harsh words from them. Can vets take animals away like RSPCA if they think the animal is not being properly cared for? | 
31-Mar-08, 07:03 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Orange, 2800 Age/Gender: 21  | | | | Make a few phonecalls to vets that are local and ask them. There should be at least 1 around that does housecalls.... | 
31-Mar-08, 07:05 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: brisbane Gender:  | | | | omg :,( that is so awlfull how can anyone do that to such a beutifull and helpless animal i agree with midnightserval see if he will sell it mabie if he doesent than you need to call someone that will help rspca? poor thing sorry about the spelling. |  | | |