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02-Aug-03, 04:25 PM
|  | primitively archaic Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender:  | | | |
I am afraid you are wrong No-One.
Have you got a copy of your licence handy? If not ,go get one now.
You will find under Class 1 (NSW)
Code T2025 Morelia s. mcdoweli/spilota (natural intergrade)
Now...A Morelia McDoweli is a Coastal Carpet Python
and... A Morelia Spilota is a Diamond Python
This natural intergrade occurs where the distribution of both species over lap and natural cross breeding occurs.
You can call them hybrids if the description fits...but that is what they are.
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02-Aug-03, 05:11 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: melbourne | | |
the way i understand it from what everyone's said is that if you were to breed from 2 coastal x diamonds that were originally caught from the wild it would be an intergrade but if you breed a pure coastal with a pure diamond it would be a hybrid cos it didn't really naturally occur if man has arranged it
but of course i've got no real clue - i just had a brain wave that made sense so i wrote it down  |
02-Aug-03, 05:25 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: tuncurry Age: 28 | | | |
Beautiful snake,cant we for once leave the bullshit aside & be polite it will not hurt your immaculate herp records that all you seem to be hoping for.I think we are forgetting one fact belle_belinda has her 1st snake & i hope that we are all proud in the fact that we made this momentous accasion seem like a crime for her.I hope you all take a good look at yourselfs & how would you like your 1st snake turned into a contraversial debate on ****.I want to say only this its a pretty snake & nothing you ignorant pricks say i wont change my mind regardles of weather it was right or wrong belle is new & seaked our opinion this wasnt given more a debate about whos right or whos wrong.Who cares wasnt it about a member getting her 1st snake & how did you feel when you got your 1st snake,wake up life is meant to be fun not an arguement.
written by popp & any flack direct to popp,for f@## sake look at ya selves!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-Aug-03, 05:26 PM
| | Seller | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney | | |
What ever it is, enjoy it !!!  |
02-Aug-03, 05:48 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: Sydney | | | |
I got my intergrade off a person called brydie burton. She works for wires and this snake was used to take to all the little kiddies at schools etc. I am not quite sure of the region but i will have some photo's posted shortly
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02-Aug-03, 05:54 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Sydeny NSW, Around Dural | | | |
It's ok STP I've already been through this debate before when I announced that I was saving up for my little guy. Im used to it now, but I agree with Greebo.
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02-Aug-03, 05:58 PM
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I reakon its pretty stupid to have a huge discussion what type of snake she owns when its her first snake that she doesnt want to breed who cares its a beautiful snake sand thats all that counts the same thing happened to me when i got my first snake bb and i was p!$$ed off cause of a argument what type of snake i owned!!
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02-Aug-03, 06:05 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Sydeny NSW, Around Dural | | |
Nah....I'm used to all these heated debates about Hybrids or whatever the hell they're called, I'm just suprised I didn't actually start the argument! 1 Gold star for me!
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02-Aug-03, 08:22 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: Sydney | | | |
Hey bellinda dont take my gold star call allright.
nah im jj
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02-Aug-03, 08:39 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Sydeny NSW, Around Dural | | |
I dont see your name on it 
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02-Aug-03, 08:56 PM
|  | Old Administrator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney south, NSW Age/Gender: 54 | | | |
I deleted few posts as i am sure that majority of members is not interested about personal arguments.
Please don't bring personal problems here.
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02-Aug-03, 09:01 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | |
Natural intergrades are a speices of carpet python.
Where they are found, diamond and coastals don't occur.
Their range is a natural buffer zone between carpets from the north and diamonds from the south.
Intergrades breed with intergrades in the wild.
The fact npws says mcdowelli/spilota is because the snake thats exactly what it is, the species is morelia spilota mcdowelli spilota.
Intergrades are not hybrids. I can't stress the fact enough that there is a difference between hybrids and intergrades.
Have a look at the pic folder titled DIAMONDICE. That is a port mac intergrade and the guy holding it's head lives in port macquarie and breeds port macs, I'll get in touch with him and see if he'll write something up for us.
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02-Aug-03, 10:01 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Tropical North Qld | | |
Hi Belinda,
What a gorgeous snake you have there. I remember when I got my first snake I was over the moon
Congratulations! I wish you many great years of snake-keeping. Looking forward to hearing more about the little guy!
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02-Aug-03, 10:14 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Sydeny NSW, Around Dural | | |
Oh you will hear ALOT about him
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03-Aug-03, 06:01 AM
| | primitively archaic Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender: | | | |
I have been trying to find info on inter-grades.
My gott! There is conflicting advice to be found.
No_one, you present a good argument, although it is almost exactly what I said just worded from a different viewpoint.
The area that intergrades occur naturally is the Barrington Tops/Port Macquarie area. Diamonds and Coastals do not occur in this area because this is where the species over-lap and have produced a new species (inter-grades).
The best I have been able to come up with is this:
When species cross breed they produces hybrids.
When hybrids of the same ilk breed, they will eventually form a new species which will be intergrades.
I dunno if this right or not...it is all so confusing.
I am always willing to listen to other ppl's opinions when they are well thought out (eg No-ONes post).
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