My snake looks sick

[Tamster]

Hi guys
just got home from work and found my little snake not too well.
For the last few days (since treating him for mites) he has looked really dull, his eyes whiteish and for lack of a better description, he started to look like a flat tyre. sort of like le was loosing conditon.His eyes have cleared up again tonight but he looks really sick now. I thought at first this was the shedding process but now im not sure.
Could this be from the mites. I cant see any more on him but as I said the other day I dont know how long he has had them.
His enclosure temp is at 38 and his water and enclosure have been kept clean. Things are nice and quiet and he hasnt been handle much as I have been letting him settle in.
I will take him to the vet tomorrow but untill then is there any suggestions on what I should do or check????
Hope some one can help..
Open to ant suggestions>>>

[sengir]

I would just say that he is coming up to a shed myself, but I am by no means an expert. I would also have thought 38 to be a little hot for the little guy I would drop it back to around 30-32 but again like I said I am not expert and welcome any corrections from anyone. Best of luck to you and I hope for both your sakes it is only that he is coming up to a shed.

Cheers

[cris]

38? i hoping you are only talking about the hotest basking spot. If that is the average cage temp you are cooking your snake.
take him out imediately and allow the cage to cool if he cant access cooler temperatures. Snakes like to be around 30 degrees (body temperature i think) if they are kept in much higher temps they will die fromheat stress.

[mungus]

What type of snake is it ?
38 deg. is a high - especially if its a DP.
I'd drop it back to 28 - 30 deg. & make sure there's a large container
of water in the enclosure.
Good luck with him.

[Tamster]

yeah sorry thats in the direct heat. Most places are at 28 to 32 degrees. Is it normal for them to be almost floppy when comming up to a shed? When I just tried to pick him up he didnt even move. Thats really unlike him, thats all. I would rather ask///////

[cris]

Originally Posted by Tamster

yeah sorry thats in the direct heat. Most places are at 28 to 32 degrees. Is it normal for them to be almost floppy when comming up to a shed? When I just tried to pick him up he didnt even move. Thats really unlike him, thats all. I would rather ask///////

Thats still a bit too hot, the cool end should be at room temperature at this time of year, just to be safe i would turn off the heat for now atleast. Let some cooler air in to drop the temperature of the enclosure too.

[RevDaniel]

take it to a vet. Sounds like it is coming up to a shed. Strange though.

[mungus]

Something is not right.
Check him in the morning & if he's not any better take him to the vet.

[Tamster]

ok thanks every one. dont mean to sound silly but it is my first and you get so attached dont you. I just not sure what normal is yet and dont want to leave it till its to late to find out if i had of asked I could have saved him....The more I ask and double check the better life he will have...

[olivehydra]

too hot

[Tamster]

Hello again,

Well to cut a long story short I have been to the vet.

The things that he said
1) Firstly my thermometre was not reading correct. Got a new one. My little python wasnt hot enough....
2) Its had mites for way too long and other factors from his breeding and early life, before I purchased him, hes under sized and nurished. Hes been knocked around heaps trying to deal with the mites and so hes now trying to shed but having a hard time...
3) Waiting on blood tests now
4) Treated again for mites and hopfully he will shed ok......

Well I have learned a HUGE lesson today... I will ask alot more questions when purchasing my next python.....FROM A PROPER BREEDER

My poor little baby, I feel tereble for him.

One other thing that the vet and I disscussed was,
some people just shouldnt be allowed to breed pythons and sell them but also people like me who buy from them instead of people who really care and passion for a breeding programe shouldnt make it so easy for them to sell them to... I really did my homework on which python I thought was best for me, Spoke to alot of different peolpe who have been around pythons for most of there lives and then mad the one fatal mistake of impulse buying when I saw the MD. I bought it there and then instead of buying directly from a breeder

But the vet did say that with time and the propper care my little fella should be ok, which is the main thing....

Well I havnt exactly cut a long story short but hey if it saves one person from making the same mistake as me then its worth it hey.

Thanks again to every one for all your help...

will keep you all up to date...

[Scotty]

Good news then, I hope he's on the mend.

[GSXR_Boy]

Good luck to you.You will learn from your mistakes, i sure have.
I tried to alternate my digital thermometers weekly between each enclosure just in case, and wouldn't you know it all three read different!!! I have found the good old mercury ones now work alot better then the digital.

[gillsy]

Sounds like a shed, especially after mites.

Will be trying to rid himself of them, snakes generally shed more when with mites.

[Tamster]

Hi every1
just thought id give you all an update..
He has shed!!!!!
Still waiting on the blood test results but at least now that its shed it answered alot of questions...
I will stop panicing now,,, but THANKS 4 all your advice....