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26-May-07, 10:27 PM
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hi,
ive heard a little bit about incubating with no medium, having the eggs suspended over water. without vermiculite etc.
i was wandering has anybody here used this method to incubate python and dragon eggs?
what were the success rates like?
pictures, diagrams and descriptions would be great.
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26-May-07, 10:40 PM
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i have heard its 100% success rate, would like to learn more on the subject aswell
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26-May-07, 10:41 PM
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I used a method like that to incubate my BHP eggs last year. I used a wire mesh 'cradle' sat about an inch above slightly moist vermiculite. The eggs themselves just sat on paper towel. I could just as easily used water but the vermiculite stopped the water sloshing around when the box was moved for inspection.
I had 100% hatch rate with that method.
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26-May-07, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hornet  i have heard its 100% success rate, would like to learn more on the subject aswell | yeh, ive heard that too. so i thought i would ask everyone.
they use it on GTP's RSP's etc.
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26-May-07, 10:42 PM
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I've used this method and i know the ranch is using it almost exclusively! Basically the eggs are suspended on racks in a sealed container above free standing water. This creates 100% humidity! The success rate has been tremendous.
The only thing you need to watch is excess condensation on the roof when the eggs are indented (as approaching hatch date). You need to wipe this away as so it doesn't pool on the eggs!
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26-May-07, 10:44 PM
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doesnt anyone have pics of this sort of setup?
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26-May-07, 10:45 PM
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thanks boa and hazzard, do ya's have any pics handy?
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26-May-07, 10:48 PM
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I'll take some tommorrow!, not really that hard to imagine. Snaplock container plastic rack (plastic squares to sit eggs on) water underneath!
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26-May-07, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hazzard I'll take some tommorrow!, not really that hard to imagine. Snaplock container plastic rack (plastic squares to sit eggs on) water underneath! | yeh, i know but images seem to stick in my head better.lol 
whaere can ya get the plastic squares sheets from? bunnings?
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26-May-07, 10:50 PM
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so they are fine to setup in a fridge incubator?
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26-May-07, 10:51 PM
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This is as hi-tech as it got, too many people want to over complicate things. All you are doing is keeping eggs warm and moist, don't try and make it into an exact science.
This year I will make the racks plastic but I just didn't have anything to hand 
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26-May-07, 10:51 PM
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boa used wire mesh, that wouldnt be to hard to make
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26-May-07, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by boa This is as hi-tech as it got, too many people want to over complicate things. All you are doing is keeping eggs warm and moist, don't try and make it into an exact science. | kool, thanks for that boa, did you need to add water to the vermiculite? and did you incubate at 31C?
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26-May-07, 10:56 PM
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My mix started at 60/40 vermiculite /water but was still a little too much water so I dried it a little. The incubator wasn't that steady and fluctuated between 29 and as high as 34 once or twice, like I said it really isn't an exact science and don't let anyone tell you it is.
The incubator is fixed for this year though.
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26-May-07, 10:57 PM
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This is a fancy commercial one. Water goes underneathe the plastic insert, The domed lid is supposed to reduce condensation drips! http://www.kingsnake.com/salceies/40...rs/egg_box.jpg | | |
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