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Old 14-Oct-05, 08:57 AM
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I wont even use breeders choice for my rats and mice,(and thats what its designed for), its absolute rubbish.
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I wont even use breeders choice for my rats and mice,(and thats what its designed for), its absolute rubbish.
It is actually sold as cat litter.

I definitely would not use it for rodents.
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Old 14-Oct-05, 09:35 AM
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even worst.
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Old 14-Oct-05, 10:26 AM
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I've recently trialed that Eco Litter on some of my enclosures. I personally found that the pellets broke up very easily into a fine dusty sawdust after about a week. Had it under some of my BHP's which loved to dig under it, but i won't use it again as the amount of dust produced may have undesirable effects if breathed in. JMO, but i won't risk it on my snakes. Back to the old newspaper.
I can't remember the name of it but going by the pics and description I think it must have been Eco Litter that we got some free samples of at the vet I worked at a few years ago to try with the boarding cats. It looked like Breeders Choice but was a kinda reddy colour and really hard and kinda almost has sharp edges, and when they pee on it it turns into a powder which I thought was just a mess! Couldn't imagine trying to scoop up a powder in my reptile enclosures!

We actually used breeders choice there for the cats and the only reason we did was cos it's cheap and we were always around to clean it up before it stank the whole place out. I wouldn't like to use it on reptiles either personally, don't like giving them anything that they could swallow and after hearing someone on the yahoo groups say they had seen a few dead reptiles due to it, I think I'll avoid it!
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Never used it , loks like rat pellets and i reckon it's a bit of a "lazy" substrate as most ppl from what i gather spot clean but the bacteria etc would have to soak through a lot of the substrate,much quicker and eaier withnewspaper plus it's the best insulation.Have read a few horror stories on bc etc on here and if it's happened to others i'm sure it can happen to anyone else too imo
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Well if you think about it, as its not made for animal bedding but instead for a cats toilet, that alone should be enough.
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Well if you think about it, as its not made for animal bedding but instead for a cats toilet, that alone should be enough.
Wow, so newspaper is purpose made for reptile enclosure substrate and some people just happen to read it?
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yes of course, where have you been all these years and not worked that one out yet.
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Old 14-Oct-05, 02:10 PM
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The only reason i get the local paper only is to see the big fish cuaght every week with lots of top pics.My Neighbour does the printing so have acess to unlimited supply...
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I saw a sawdust pellet in Western Australia recently, does anyone know where this is available from and what type of timber it is made from ? Looked good, reddy tan colour and was created as an animal bedding substrate.
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breeders choice is just 100% re-cycled news paper , i actually think it works better than news paper as you dont have to replace all the substrate at once , just all the soiled area. As for ingesting it , i feed my girl away from the substrate( log or hide).
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Does it soak up the droppings ? or does it drain to the bottom and you have to clean all the way down ?

Guess its a good idea for me to just try it and see for myself I guess
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I was given the idea to use the imitation grass on the bottom of my Coastal Carpets cage (10 Mths old) I have two 'sheets' take the dirty one out, hose and dry in the sun, with a clean one already in.

or another suggestion was to use rubber back carpet, and follow the same lines.
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Old 11-Nov-05, 08:17 PM
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hello everyone its a bit iffy i rather use breeders choice for me lizards as they love it and it makes the enclosure look alot better i personally havent tried it on my pythons so i cant comment on how it goes with them but as for the lizards it is a definate YES. i havent tried it in my python enclosures as i find the pythons get undetr the newspaper and feel safe and im not sure whether they would get that same effect in the breeders choice
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Old 11-Nov-05, 09:12 PM
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Speaking of substrate, I have recently moved house and found alot of stuff I had forgotten about. If anyone in Sydney is interested in trying something new I have some excess samples of what is best described as "super size incontinence pads". They are sold to hospitals as bed liners and absorb heaps of liquid whilst remaining dry to touch. I know the importer and he is currently selling to the petshop/vet industry and gave me some to try on the snakes. Not my cuppa tea but if interested pm me and I'll post a sample.
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