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04-Feb-08, 01:05 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-07 Location: Adelaide, Australia Age/Gender: 45  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Eiroc  Guys - I did say it depended on the species - not referring to this one (as I didn't know what the other user had).
Also, I do keep the humidity up, I had just cleaned away some of the substrate while trying to lure her closer for a better picture for you all.
As for the breeding advice - thanks guys, but as we said "it was all a surprise to us as we didn't even know she was preggas" so dampness conditions were not ideal at the time of their birth. | LOL...dont you just love text discussion, it can be so easily misinterpreted.
Yep....I know you said 'it depends on the species'....I was trying to emphasise that there are NO species of Urodacus with such short gestation peiods, I hope that's clear.
Okay..so you think conditions may not have been correct prior to parturition. What happens is that mums physiology will be the result of local acclimation, or adjustment to conditions. She may not have been entirely in parturition mode physiologically, if you know what I mean. Some species will even resorb developing embryos if they determine conditions as incorrect, and this may have happened to some degree here. What normally happens is that because mums chemistry has turned off her 'maternal' genes, she may not be producing what the young need from her. It's been shown through scientif demnstration that the young derive water and possibly solutes via mums cuticle. If she has turned this system off, the young will eventually get off her back and stay off as they desperately try to locate the 'right' place. During this time very often mum will eat the kids one by one.....but, not always.
The other 'HOPEFUL' possibility is that she is just a first time mum, who tend to have low brood counts the first time round, although 12-15 would be considered low. I have had elongatus give birth to about 45 young in one brood.
Hope all that makes some sense....you need to keep the soil damp..and seal off the container.
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04-Feb-08, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tan Thanks for the advice Mark, I just get frustrated sometimes when assumptions are made and sometimes the written word can come across rather bluntly. | No worries...I've been on forums long enough to accept misinterpretation of text communication. And...I am a pretty blunt writer, my science background I guess, but never had any form of disrespect happening there.
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04-Feb-08, 01:09 PM
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Thanks for that, those bubs seemed to have hoped onto her back soon after that pic was taken with exception of one who is underneath her...
So seal off container means perhaps put some cling wrap under lid with a few airholes to keep humidity up?
cheers
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04-Feb-08, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tan Thanks for that, those bubs seemed to have hoped onto her back soon after that pic was taken with exception of one who is underneath her...
So seal off container means perhaps put some cling wrap under lid with a few airholes to keep humidity up?
cheers | Dont have any airholes...none. When this species gives birth it is underground in a sealed off coccoon like burrow. You need a tight fitting lid for the container. There will be more than enough air in there to last her months. Once the young have dispersed from mum you can then allow her into a more natural 'scrape' type of microclimate. Keep the young on a peat/soil 50:50 mix dampened...with good ventilation, or mycosis will be a problem. Watch for ecdysis and then be prepared to seal off...
or at least allow the scorpion to seal itself off under a rock or similar.
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04-Feb-08, 02:36 PM
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Anyways congrats on the babys , we just had 3 Lychas Marmoreus give birth in the last two weeks , haha crappers!
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04-Feb-08, 02:42 PM
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Thats awesome, my teenage son has a flinders, shes about 6 months old now.
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