should cats be under license?

[Mulcahy]

we got charged 170 dollars cause our dog had got out meanwhile cats are every where and no one is fined how fare is that

[cris]

Cats should obviously be strictly regulated and progressively phased out as pets in Australia. They are far more harmful to humans the ecosystem than animals like dogs that currently far more strictly regulated (in most places). Cats shouldnt be allowed to roam freely outside the owners property, they should be kept inside a house, cat cage or failing that a freezer

[africancichlidau]

Originally Posted by craig.a.c

I can't believe people still debate about this p.o,o.

EXACTLY!! Everyone knows cats have their place, in python stomachs or under truck wheels.

[bundy_zigg]

where i work we have heaps of feral cats, monday morning my boss called me up on top of the plant room to help him clean up the mess the cats had made. Nothing prepared me for what i was going to see(they had been living up there for at least a couple of weeks) there was dead birds every where and a poor bandicoot that had only just bee killed it had been torn up on its back leg and left to rot(the cat didn't even eat it) needless to say the cats were trapped and killed(humanly, not that they deserved that) the feral cat population has boomed and its starting to show around our area! QLD wont allow ferats because they could escape and DEVISTATE our wildlife but hey what the hell lets allow CATS who are cute fluffy little things that wouldnt hurt a fly to roam free with no regulations
WOW what a rant

[morgasm]

i really admire cats..i mean look at them from the tip of there nose to the tip of their tails theyre a complete hunting machine..ive heard theyre the only other creature on the planet that "hunt at leisure" us being the other anyways like i say i really like love admire adore and often awwwed by what cats do.....but seriously nahhh i dont think they should be licenced ......CATS SHOULD BE BANNED in austalia ..theyre too good at hunting and like some people dont know when enough is enough they dont.. lol like a w..ker you see fishing he starts catching fish ..lol finaly .....hes soo used to getting nothing, so hes catching and keeps catching ..i.e. 50 salmon later..he talks about it for years " remember that day ..yada yada 50 salmon yada"...who the hell is going to eat 50 salmon i mean at best you might freeze them (might as well buy fish from woolies whatever, frozen sh.t..lol) anyways like that dude cats are kinda the same except its their instincts that drive them to keep hunting when theyve already got soo much stashed they'll never get to it...still lmao youve gotta just love those skillz..right?!?

the question begs tho doesnt it ...ppl like in my scenario ..should they be licenced banned or otherwise??? hahaha take care.

[morgasm]

Originally Posted by bundy_zigg

**they had been living up there for at least a couple of weeks) there was dead birds every where and a poor bandicoot that had only just bee killed it had been torn up on its back leg and left to rot(the cat didn't even eat it)** needless to say the cats were trapped and killed(humanly, not that they deserved that)

"humanely" ..im from central qld (in sydney atm) my mate from high school was hired by qld's state forests to kill ferals anything really but cats are the biggest prob by far..he does this by using cat cages baited with the poison called 1080, and also by shooting them...hahaha 1080 read a little on its half life etc ...it is evil. Many cats escape thos cages ..lol go figure , and if theyve consumed ANY 1080 theyre dead, after theyre dead other animals feed on the carcass ..theyre dead...other creature feed on those carcasses theyre dead haha a bird eats a peice of one of them and it dies in a river the fish eat it and theyre dead, crabs eat the fish theyre dead...hahaha read about 1080, with QLD's use of it ..i bet trace elements can be found in reef fish etc lmao..so ban cats 1080 annnnd d..kheads hahaha. Ohh and me from typing anymore today hahaa take care ya all.

** as i suggested in my 1st post ..instincts dont allow them to stop

[Spikie wanna cricket]

all animals should be under licence as too many get killed or hurt or even not cared for . its not just cats its dogs as well like i am not talking about the $900 operations like i give my dogs i am talking about the simple worming and vaccinations for both dogs and cats. beside all dog onwers should have to undergo a training course to help prevent 'crazy' dogs you know the ones that bite without warning

[cris]

Its is actually illegal for a cats owner to allow it outside where it may kill or harm other animals(in qld at least) with a maximum penalty of 1 year in jail. I think it would be great if they actually enforced this law. Feral cats are also a declared pest(qld) which means you are required by law to take all practical measures to eliminate them from your property.

Originally Posted by morgasm

Many cats escape thos cages ..lol go figure , and if theyve consumed ANY 1080 theyre dead, after theyre dead other animals feed on the carcass ..theyre dead...other creature feed on those carcasses theyre dead haha a bird eats a peice of one of them and it dies in a river the fish eat it and theyre dead, crabs eat the fish theyre dead...

This is rubbish, most natives are resistant to 1080 and thats why it is used, it occurs naturally in native plants.

[chippa8]

As far as I'm concerned all cat should be shot on site! Pet or not they all kill native animals. I shoot everyone that gets in front of my rifle. Anymore than 12 feet from the back door & they are feral.

[morgasm]

Originally Posted by cris

This is rubbish, most natives are resistant to 1080 and thats why it is used, it occurs naturally in native plants.

you could be right ..anything i say basically im just "reckoning" on what i think i know or heard whatever lol

like anything i spose it depends what info you source ..some biased hippy might have told me what i said..i do remember it was in tassie that i "learnt" this lol ahhh every mans dream..a litlle map of tassie to call his own anyways i digress ..... the hippy might have had pretty pamphlets with pics and quotes from actual studies from australian unis etc to back his her claims you know with pretty pics of dead critters etc etc..spose i could make the same on my computer saying anything i wanted it to and they mighta done the same so i dunno lol ..i stand correctable if not corrected ^_~


annnd lol an after thought what if those critters that eat the carcasses are other cats or birds maybe then and they fall in the river / dams hmm into human food source animals blah blah ..buggered if i know but whatever source it was seemed convincing lol

either way so's not steal someones thread i think cats owners lol should be licenced but like has been in said then the law needs enforcing as far as kerfew whatever because in gladstone qld the law was cats indoors at night hahaha "heeeere puss puss puss" tapping on the can meanwhile and its on a killing spree in flock of wild budgies ( although more often a flock of some other imported pest bird). rofl.

[nuthn2do]

Originally Posted by cris

Its is actually illegal for a cats owner to allow it outside where it may kill or harm other animals(in qld at least) with a maximum penalty of 1 year in jail. I think it would be great if they actually enforced this law. Feral cats are also a declared pest(qld) which means you are required by law to take all practical measures to eliminate them from your property.



This is rubbish, most natives are resistant to 1080 and thats why it is used, it occurs naturally in native plants.

Are you serious? 1080 is not selective and will kill anything if they ingest enough

[888lowndes888]

I just dont understand that if a dog gets out it gets put in the pound and then theres a fee to get it out or it gets put down. Dogs are less harmful to native wildlife then cats yet cats roam free and there is no cat pound or anything. I think the pound should cater for cats and put the release fee right up too. I work at a pet shop and you here sooo many customers talking about not seeing there 50000 cats they own very often and they only come home for food bla bla bla yet they still buy more? Then dog owners come in and have just paid 100 dollars to get their dog out of the pound because it escaped while they were at work. How is this fair?

[herptrader]

In terms of the actual question posed in the subject I would answer an emphatic yes but I would also have different license fees for neutered animals as opposed to those with the potential to breed.

Anyone with cats that can produce kittens should have to pay significantly more than those that have been neutered.

[bk201]

they should make it so you have to have a license to keep them and tough restrictions on the keeping breeding and selling of them such as making it

illegal to sell un desexed cats
they should make it illegal to keep cats outdoors
all wild cats should be caught and destroyed
any cats outside of a house should be captured and they should face penalties of over $500 per offense and increase in penatly with each additional offence
just because people think there cute and cuddly people let them roam outside killing native animals and they just use the excuse whats a few natives eaten here and there but they never consider the larger scale impacts of it and since every year cat numbers are increasing soon the threat will become more "real" to people but by the time anything is done they will have wiped out countless natives i personally dislike cats so yea if you think im harsh so be it but some one needs to be. i live in the suburbs of sydney i do not own a cat yet i have tons of them in my yard , walking on my cars, trying to get into my ponds, breeding under my house, fighting all night,killing lorikets in trees hanging over my garage, and since they came i havnt seen any lizards and frogs in my area i used to see frequent tree frogs , marsh frogs, blue tongues, jackys and such but there all gone. another major problem is peoples cats just breed and the owners refuse to take responsibilty for the kittens there cats produce.

[pythonrockchik1]

I think cats should be kept contained on the owner's property at all times. Also, all cats should be desexed to prevent unnecessary pregnancies, only breeders applying for a permit to breed being the exception.

Harder legislation needs to come down on cat owners and their cats as these animals pose a great threat to our native fauna especially some of the more endangered species, and ultimately upset the balance of our eco-system.

That said, I'm sure the majority of cat owners on this site agree and are responsibly containing their animals for the benefit of our native wildlife, and I also think ALL pet owners should prove themselves responsible whilst caring for and containing their animals.