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20-Jun-08, 06:22 PM
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Hi All,
Combatting the male bhps today at my mates place, my male smashed his male by the throat!
His male broke free but then he just slammed him again and we had to physically split them.
Amazing to see such huge snakes going the biff,
It was a new camera and had a dud setting so not a good quality pic, such a pity, anyway
Cheers
Adam.
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20-Jun-08, 06:26 PM
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WOW thats even better than going to see the local dog fights on saturday nights
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20-Jun-08, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ad Combatting the male bhps .... |
Why?
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20-Jun-08, 07:17 PM
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Huh? Are you trying to get a rise?
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20-Jun-08, 07:19 PM
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You have got to be kidding. Why do that to your own snake, or any snake for that matter. I hope the member that said reported really did report you. Your a joke mate.
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20-Jun-08, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricko Gee the armchair experts are out tonight aren't they ad. | Computer chair experts!
I don't really think this guy is serious though, something tells me it's a joke. Just to stir people up. why would someone fight a $1500 snake...or any snake for that matter. Actually rephrase that to any animal. Unless there're a 12 year old and have a pet scorpion they like to pitch up against spiders or something...
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20-Jun-08, 07:33 PM
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Well i can think of one obvious answer... to improve the chances of successful breeding! How many BHP's have you guys bred? I bet ad has bred 5 times more than all of you put together!
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20-Jun-08, 07:37 PM
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LOL don't I feel like an idiot I got so fired up I didnt even think about the fact they are male and female mating lol.
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20-Jun-08, 07:41 PM
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You should feel like an idiot because you musn't of read the "my male smashed his male" comment either lol
Combatting is often used with BHP's to stimulate mating with males who would otherwise have no interest. When they have breeding competition it enhances their desire to mate with the female. The process is managable under strict supervision but can be brutal. I knew this thread was goign to be a great one lol.
Can anyone pick the difference between the breeders & the non breeders?
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20-Jun-08, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 888lowndes888 LOL don't I feel like an idiot I got so fired up I didnt even think about the fact they are male and female mating lol. |
Ah, the original post says his male against his mates male.
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20-Jun-08, 07:43 PM
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I can't believe some of those comments. Yep...... Let's pick the BHP breeders. 
Hope all is going well for this breeding season Ad.
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20-Jun-08, 07:43 PM
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they are male to male, its natural thing and they dont fight like dogs, ripping each other apart. they just push and tangle each other.
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20-Jun-08, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteyluvsrum they are male to male, its natural thing and they dont fight like dogs, ripping each other apart. they just push and tangle each other. | You think they don't bite also?
Simon stone has a pic of a male MD biting another male MD in Reptiles Australia mag. And if you seach morelia viridis forum (in the last week) you will find someone accidently introduced a male to a wrongly sexed female which copped a complete flogging and has very deep wounds. It can be very brutal. Here is a link to the GTP's http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/reply...ml#reply-63834
If conditioned properly combatting shouldn't even be needed.
I know Neil Sonnermann doesn't combat and has had success putting 1 male over 4 females.
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20-Jun-08, 08:11 PM
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I am sure Ad knows what he is doing.
But for others that don't know about combatting, if you decide to do so in the future just remember that in the wild the loser can back down and slither away with little more than a battered ego, not so easy within an enclosure. So remove the submissive male ASAP otherwise the dominant male will do damage. And make sure you keep watch the entire time they are together. Don't take your eyes off them & deffinately don't leave the room. A safer option is to use another males shed skin or hide to stimulate a breeding response from the male. ETA: I don't combat, but I am not against those that do.
It is a personal choice and if you think you can perform it safely and enhance your chances of a successful mating, than good luck to you. But it can be a barbaric & brutal act, so be weary of this.
Last edited by amazonian; 20-Jun-08 at 08:21 PM.
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20-Jun-08, 08:23 PM
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hey ad, did you try and scent her enclosure with one male so the the would be more aggressive sexually?or do you do it to work out which one you want to breed from also? ie stronger male?
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