looking to buy small python thats easy to handle

[Boa90]

im not sure what species of small python i would like to get and would like some help in deciding what species to go for id like a species thats inexpensive and easy to handle.

[speedy]

where abouts you from

[Auzlizardking]

What is the best First Snake?
You must first decide a few basic things:
1. How large you would like the python to be when fully grown
2. How much are you looking to spend
3. Is it for show only or is it a pet to be handled from time to time.
Here is a rough outline of what I think are some of the better pythons for first timers.

Python Species Size When Grown Average Price Price Low Price High Pet Store Price
Children’s ....................1.2m ..................$150-$260 ....................$150 ...................$400 ....................$300
Spotted ....................1.5m ...................$150-$260 ....................$150 ......................$400 ....................$300
Stimson ..........................1.0m ....................$200-$280 ....................$200 ....................$500 ....................$350
Bredli ............................3.0m ..................$290-$390 ....................$250 ....................$1100 .....................N/A
Diamond ..........................2.1m ....................$380-$480 ....................$300 ....................$1200 .....................N/A
Coastal Carpet...............3.3m ....................$100-$250 ....................$100 ...................$1000 ....................N/A
Murray Darlings..............2.4m ....................$150-$250 ....................$150 ....................$600 ....................N/A
Darwin Python.................2.4m ....................$150-$400 ....................$150 ....................$600 ....................N/A

There are many other pythons available but these are the basics. This is just a rough guide of prices; the high end price is due to locality, colours, and patterns. Morph’s can fetch much higher prices than most other pythons and I have not priced them here as morph prices usually go into the thousands, morph’s are pythons like the albino, or have different markings than normal.
Some species are available through pet stores, but other reptile specific stores can sell many other species and prices will vary from store to store, and state to state as laws, rules, and regulations differ. Some python can live for more than 25Yr’, so they are a long term pet. Be sure that you can fit an enclosure into your home that can to fit your python when fully grown. It is sometimes more convenient to purchase an older python, as you no they are feeding well, and can see there temperament. But it can be a lot pricier. A hatchy can be hand reared and can grow with you starting out in a small enclosure which can be easier on the wallet for starting out. There end enclosure should be half there length, by quarter of there length, by quarter of there length minimum. Larger the better in the end, as they will appreciate the room when fully grown.

Purchasing Your First Python

When purchasing your first python you should take great care in choosing. You should ensure that the python is feeding well, if in doubt, ask to come on a feeding day to see it being feed. This will also show you how to feed the python as well. With your python you should get a feeding, Shedding, and maybe even a defecation history. You would not be out of line to ask to see the parents. You can then see what markings the parents have and there temperament. Also check the snake over and handle it a little, as hatches they may be feisty and bite but it doesn’t hurt, it’s more a shock the first time. If something look’s wrong with the python, there probably is. Follow your instincts with health, regardless of what you are told be the seller.

What Enclosure do I keep a Hatchy in?

Hatchy’s are usually kept in Click Clacks. Click Clacks are small plastic tubs available at most Bunning’s, Supermarkets, etc. It is just any reasonable sized container with a locking lid that has no gaps where a python might be able to get out. Pythons are professional escape artists so you must ensure that there are no gaps and they can not force the lid off, you would be surprised by there strength. If they can get there nose into a space they will force there head through and will have no problem getting the rest of there body’s through. You will need to ensure that there is sufficient ventilation by making small holes in the enclosure; I usually just drill a number of strategically placed holes. A heat mat is the best heating for a hatchy/ juvenile in my opinion as it is cheaper, and is less prone to overheating than heat cord, and lamps in a click clack can be very difficult to mount. The heat mat should cover around 1/3rd the flooring of the click clack and not more than half the flooring space. It should also be fastened to the underside of the click clack at one end. This allows a heat gradient, from one end to the other. Your aim should be to have a warm end of approx 30-32 degrees celcius, and a cool end of around 24 degrees Celsius the python can then move between the warm area and cool areas to self regulate its own temp. You will need to use some type of flooring on the bottom of the enclosure, I would suggest absorbent paper, or news paper to start off as it is cheap but professional floorings are available. You will also need at least 2 hides, more if you like, they will appreciate places to hide. You will need 1 hide in the warm area and 1 hide in the cool area. Sufficient water supply is also required. Remember that from time to time they may choose to curl up in there water bowl so you will regularly need to check there water.
I personally scrunch up some newspaper and then pull it out a little to put in there enclosure so that they can hide in amongst it and slither against it. They are best kept on there own in these enclosures.

The exception to this is the diamond python because it requires UVA and UVB light (sun light). This can not be achieved through glass as the glass filters out the much needed UV light. Although a diamond python can be kept like this, it requires a regular dose of sunlight each day for at least 1 hr a week, or UVA/UVB producing lights in its enclosure. There temps are much cooler than most other Aussie pythons with a warm end at 27degrees celcius, and a cool end of 20 degrees celcius.

How often can I handle my python?

While they are young I would say no more than 15-20min, 4-5 times a week. Over handling them can stress them out to much and can result in feeding problems and death. As they get older they can be handled more frequently and for longer durations. After purchase of a python I try not to handle my pythons for 1-2weeks to let them settle into there new environments. After this time I feed them wait a few days after feeding and then start handling them. Avoid handling them during shedding as it is a difficult time for them, and it can split the shed making it more difficult to shed there entire slough (Old Skin) complete.

[Chimera]

If you feel you may be a bit timid in handling a python it may be worth going for a yearling. Most (if not all) pythons will be snappy as a hatchling but will settle down with semi-frequent handling. If they are not handled they may never settle down.

Having said that I have a childrens pythons that has never even looked like biting even as a hatchy.

[sparticus]

childrens,stimson and maculosus,I have maculosus and stimson and they are great.All of that group are great pythons become easy to handle and don't cost an arm and a leg to buy....

[Chimera]

Another shameless plug but if you can get the latest Reptiles Australia. There is a fantastic article called Test Driving Australian Pythons that may answer most of your questions.

[Tatelina]

Originally Posted by Chimera

Another shameless plug but if you can get the latest Reptiles Australia. There is a fantastic article called Test Driving Australian Pythons that may answer most of your questions.

I was going to suggest that aswell...
You can get it from most newsagencies (apparently)...if they don't have it ask for it.

[Boa90]

Originally Posted by speedy

where abouts you from

newcastle

[Boa90]

also wondering what size would a tank have to be to house any of thses pythons

[Auzlizardking]

A 900 W x 600 D X 500 H should be fine

[bigpython]

Great info there Auzlizardking,
I'm just doing my homework before i decide too.

[Inkslinger]

I am going against the flow here I usually suggest a newbie gets a well established bigger python.
Snappy hatchys can grow into bitey big ones.
We often introduce first timers to Haggis our Olive he tips the scales at 8 kilo and is an absoulte moosh.
On the other hand I have a Macci that thinks its a scrubbie and I dont think a 4 it will ever change.

A big python that is a good handler is a real confidence booster too they are not flighty will eat easier to handle more durable, (incase of fright drops) . Recently I sold a quiet large water python to my mates son as a first snake. This water thinks he is a ***** cat you can do anything with him. The Lad is now planning his next purchases.
I still have problems handling hatchies as I am concerned I could hurt them by accident.
But thats just IMHO.

[Boa90]

thanks heaps for the help everyone much appreciated i think ill go with getting an older snake sounds like theyll be more easy to handle

[Jason]

i have some spotted python hatchies for sale and will be heading up that way next week, pm me if your interested

[gregatglasshouse]

Auzlizardking - thanks from another new member for your summary - apprecaited