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Forgetting about eastern snake necked turtles? IMO its open season when it rains...they should have been left off the list TBH
 
I'll sell my female water python to a local shop. She should keep everyone away from the shop for a long time. Then they'll be begging me to buy her back (at half price of course).

Profit made, reptiles safe!
 
So ,this morning its all over the radio news , " and it will help stop the blackmarket trade " . What do they mean by this ?? and where do they think the shops are going to get their herps from ??? .

OH , the " blackmarket " , or are there more comercial breeders than i think out there .
Or are they only able to buy from breeders with an ABN ??
With such a short list available there is still going to be a lot of Car Park activity .:shock:
 
So ,this morning its all over the radio news , " and it will help stop the blackmarket trade " . What do they mean by this ?? and where do they think the shops are going to get their herps from ??? .

OH , the " blackmarket " , or are there more comercial breeders than i think out there .
Or are they only able to buy from breeders with an ABN ??
With such a short list available there is still going to be a lot of Car Park activity .:shock:

that was partly my point.
someone asked why no RSPCA set ups in other states - IMO, it's easier to dump a reptile than a microchipped cat or dog.
that's another questions - are the councils going to cash in on this and expect owners to pay for annual registration? In NSW anything is possible.
 
reading some of the replies in this thread makes me want to give myself a massive :facepalm: , people the sky isnt falling its ok relax , drop the paranoia , do some of you guys wear foil hats as well ?

sure there will be some idiots that get a snake without knowing what there doing but thats going to happen anyway , on a plus side there may be a less of demand for exotics although i think im kidding myself there :)
 
NSW is now selling reps in pet stores... it's the end of the industry and our hobby, oh the humanity.... won't somebody please think of the children. It has caused such demise in the rest of Australia that sells reptiles in petshops.... no wait, what was my point exactly?
 
I thought milii were local?
I don't even know what they are lol :?
Was just referring to eastern bearded dragons and water dragons being left off the list.
but suprised they have done that, yet allowed snake neck turtles to be sold?
I suppose, they needed atleast one turtle species availible for the "oooooh turtle" factor.........
Heard on the radio today that this is a move, to squash the black market.:shock:
 
Some are quick to blame the pet shop for being 'dodgy', not looking after their animals, doing the wrong thing by customers by selling them stuff they don't need etc etc etc. But what about the breeders, don't they owe some level of ownership/responsability for the animals as well...?? I know I wouldn't sell to a shop like that, I would be quite particular with any shops I may deal with and if this were their attitude I wouldn't sell them anything. So although it easy to blame a pet shop (for a crime they havnen't committed yet), they're getting their animals from us, as breeders. I know a few shops that are selective as to who they will buy from, I think it is also important that we are the same when it comes to selling...!!

Daz
 
they're getting their animals from us, as breeders. I know a few shops that are selective as to who they will buy from, I think it is also important that we are the same when it comes to selling...!!

Daz

yes and thats what the radio was refering to as the blackmarket !!!!! the average everyday reptile breeder !!!! as if they were ALL criminals :shock:
 
yes and thats what the radio was refering to as the blackmarket !!!!! the average everyday reptile breeder !!!! as if they were ALL criminals :shock:

Lol, yes we are all criminals....:D:D

I think they may be referring more to the fact there are so many unlicenced keepers out there and also the fact that there are so many exotics out here as well. I mean, having someone ask if you have any corn snakes for sale at a reptile show is kind of unusual, but doesn't seems as uncommon these days. So the fact that reptiles are available through pet shops would mean there is less chance of someone being guided into exotics and also all shops should ensure you have a licence before you can buy.

Daz
 
As I understand it, only "commercial" breeders can sell to pet shops, and a "commercial" licence costs a couple of grand? Haven't read all the post in this thread, just in case this has already been mentioned.

Jamie
 
,in S.A. you have to have a specialised lic. to allow you to buy and sell reptiles without the six month waiting period, unless you breed them yourself. After working in a pet store that sold reptiles for a few years i have seen some pretty dodgy people walk through the door with wild caught blueys, sleepys, beardies, millis and even some Jans banded snakes for sale. you will never stop the desperate or uneducated trying to make cash off wild caught animals, and i even caught a bloke that i just turfed out trying to sell his freshly caught beardie to my customers out in the carpark, the guy wanted some smokes for the lizard... i told him if he lets it go id give him a pack, cost me $16 but i also educated him as to the amount the fine would cost him when he gets caught and that next time i would ring the authorities on him.
 
Also, their target market is not a person that has several reptiles, it is the first time keeper that has little to no experience. So they buy their first snake, hopefully get the right advice, have the ability to purchase all the products to maintain the animal in captive conditions and walk away happy. If there interest grows, they may find themselves at places like this and/or reptile shows and purchase thier 2nd animal there, hopefully with a bit more experience under their belt.

Daz

I was thinking that too.
A person sees or buys a reptile at a shop then goes home and looks up info which usually leads to forums.
Looking over forums they find that its cheaper to buy from a private breeder and everyone knows reptiles are like Pringles, once you pop, you cant stop.

This will most likely bring more awareness to the fact you need a licence to keep reptiles and extend the amount of keepers and the hobby and create more buyers for those selling privately.

The downside of this however is people seeing them in shops and thinking why buy one when I can get one from the bush down the road for free
 
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Anyone have any solid info on the "commercial licence" to enable breeders to sell to petshops?
 
Ohh ok kool I will stilk be going to breeders stuff paying 3x the price I saw a normal stimmie at pet shop nothing special and dull $495 hahahhaa
& they will include a kit plastic box HEAT ROCK repti clean hand sanitizer and sand and hide with bedding oh and a telescopic hook for an extra 50$ I laughed my head off when I saw this
from Cathy :)
 
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Forgetting about eastern snake necked turtles? IMO its open season when it rains...they should have been left off the list TBH

Turtles have been getting trapped for a long while ,they will get trapped more to feed the supply.
Its because there isnt any big commercial suppliers and as far as i can see on the DECCW website there wont be any ,just commercial reptile dealers with shops ,hobbyists that cant be commercial etc.
 
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