That is el-correcto.I am thinking Leaf Green Tree Frogs (Litoria phyllochroa). I am not a frog keeper so I can't be sure but the stripe above the eye definitely fits.
Tree frogs don't necessarily need a large water body to breed. They will do it anywhere there is standing water, ie: drainpipes, a bucket left in the yard that has collected water, a water tank etc.Thanks guys.Strange that there is no water around so at a bit of a loss as to why they are there.The brown one is a fair bit smaller than the green one.Am guessing male and female?
And, of course, the toiletTree frogs don't necessarily need a large water body to breed. They will do it anywhere there is standing water, ie: drainpipes, a bucket left in the yard that has collected water, a water tank etc.
I had a group living in my yard and all that was there was a bunnings 500L water tank. At one point the kids had collected ten juveniles, they could never find the adults though. They seemed to favour the pumpkin patch.
Yep, have found them there too. I had a pair spawn in my dogs water bucket, a repurposed 4 litre ice-cream bucket. I've got 3 or 4 living in the drain pipe to my 1500 litre galvanised rainwater tank in the back undercover area. They cross the yard each night to visit my woody bin.And, of course, the toilet
The brown one is a fair bit smaller than the green one.Am guessing male and female?
I didn’t really know anything about the biology of these guys but I now understand why you though it unusual there was not a stream or similar water body nearby. All I can suggest is that they have finished their breeding for the year and dispersed a little further afield to take pressure of limited food resources and having to compete with other frogs.Thanks guys.Strange that there is no water around so at a bit of a loss as to why they are there.The brown one is a fair bit smaller than the green one. Am guessing male and female?
In my experience the tympanum is not a particularly consistent distinguishing characteristic. A better one IMO (but still not perfect) is the size and length of the dark band along the edge of the head and down the side. Along with the light stripe, it is substantially broader and longer in nudidigtatus and can be very black in colour in this species.…As far as I'm aware the taxonomy of the species is currently under review with those south of Sydney from Wollongong to Eastern Victoria currently being classified as Litoria nudidigata and those from Sydney to Coffs Harbour classified as Litoria phyllochroa. On top of this they are assumed to hybridize in the zone between Wollongong and Sydney where they show characteristics of both species. So given that it's from the RNP south of Sydney it could be a hybrid of both.
Defining morphological characteristics which identify each species include;
L. nudidigata - tympanum (eardrum) located just behind the eye is indistinct
- shoulders red to black colour
L. phyllochroa - tympanum distinct
- shoulders red to brown …View attachment 323278
In my experience the tympanum is not a particularly consistent distinguishing characteristic. A better one IMO (but still not perfect) is the size and length of the dark band along the edge of the head and down the side. Along with the light stripe, it is substantially broader and longer in nudidigtatus and can be very black in colour in this species.
Location is the best indicator of species, except in the zone of overlap. This starts just south of Sydney, around Stanwell Tops/Darkes Forest and extends to just past Wollongong.
just out of curiosity, what other species did you find around there?I also herped that area over while growing up, including Waterfall and Helensburgh (Kelly’s Creek area). It was a species I seldom came across and never once came across a heavily patterned individual like the southern species. I did come across more of them once old enough to drive and able to go out frogging on wet nights, However, I barely ever went to RNP for herping by then. Irrespective of where the boundary is, I consider the light coloured individual in the opening post to definitely be the northern species.
just out of curiosity, what other species did you find around there?
Sorry meant reptiles/amphibians in general. I live near there and I would just like to know what you can findRather than add a long list I thought this might give you an idea.
https://frogs.org.au/frogs/of/New_South_Wales/
Sorry meant reptiles/amphibians in general. I live near there and I would just like to know what you can find
I do.Buddy you need to buy a field guide for NSW reptiles.
The colour has nothing to do with defining sex. These guys can be either a light green or dark olive green as demonstrated with the pics.
Not sure about this species, but many frogs can just change colour green to gold/brown etc.Would a single spawn produce both colour types?
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