Snakes & Reptiles in NSW pet shops.
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They certainly need to make a lot of conditions to selling reptiles in petshops. From what I have experienced is that a lot of petshops employ the youngest people that they can so they don't have to pay high wages. UNLESS they are experienced, have done reptile keeping courses etc etc they give out the wrong information and kill the reptiles. ie we haven't got any small crix or woodies but you can feed them mealworms etc.A reptile is much different to look after than your cat or dog.
Yes, there are some dodgy people out there privately selling not good animals and giving out bad advice, but you will find that bad reputations spread like wild fire. I can name a few off the top of my head that I wouldn't trust with my pet rock.In pet shops you don't know the origin of the animal so I would be very reluctant to buy. JMO
Yes, there are some dodgy people out there privately selling not good animals and giving out bad advice, but you will find that bad reputations spread like wild fire. I can name a few off the top of my head that I wouldn't trust with my pet rock.In pet shops you don't know the origin of the animal so I would be very reluctant to buy. JMO
mysnakesau
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This is a good point and I could add a question to this one.....how many pet shops get blamed for the bad condition of the animals they have in their shop when they have been bought from no-gooders who started the neglect and palmed them off and made it someone else's problem to fix?
Licenses are so easy to get, impulse buying will happen, or kids will buy animals and the parents will bring them back and expect a refund.
Ramsayi
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Never thought I would agree with Hix but in this case I think he is 100% correct.
mysnakes,how can you blame the people flogging off animals that are in bad condition? Are petshops forced to take on sick or dying animals?
mysnakes,how can you blame the people flogging off animals that are in bad condition? Are petshops forced to take on sick or dying animals?
i must admit i only red through the first 3 page of this thread (all the comments were the same)
im not for nor against it to be honest.
there are (imo) alot of very narrow minded comments in this thread. people think these shops are only after a quick buck, the ruth is, is that you really dont realise how most pet shops are run!
i as some will know i work casually in a pet shop on the weekends. shops that want to sell reptiles in NSW will be very carefully selected requiring staff to attend training and understand the husbandary of reps, not only that surely poeple realise that there are a large number of pet shops that have no desire to sell reptiles nor their products.
the truth is, is that animals need to be sold at about 300% of the purchase price, how can you tell me that a shop will buy a jungle for 400 and manage to even get 1000 for it? the animals that are wanted to be sold are the easy to keep and sell animals that require products (cause thats where the money is made) think about this, how much does a beardie or turtle setup cost from a pet shop? your looking at a $100 lizard and $500 in products. shops are more interested in stocking reptiles cause it will promote the sale of products that the animals needs.
as for impulse buys, if you dont have a liscence you dont get to buy the animal. if you dont have the requirements you dont get the animals. not only that, people have mentioned that sales will encourage hybrids......? hows this? its illegal to breed them and it will be most likely against the law for the shops to sell them (this is what i hear).also as for a shop selling animals that require force feeding (mentioned in a previous post) its ilegal, we cant sell birds or any other animal that cant feed on its own, if the animal goes off food it would be covered under the health garentee (as long as the buyer is responsibly and properly looking after it). these shops dont want to rip you off or feed you crap info....they want your business and for you to come back time and time agian!
of course there are shops that will be crap, they will also make no money out of it and will most likely stop stocking the animals
as i said im not for it, this post is just in responce to some comments i keep hearing on this site. yes some shops will be bad, but im sure there are several people in this thread having a slag that keep their animals in terrible conditions. it happens more often then id like to think but with shops having rules and the licence to sell reps going to cost ALOT of money, its not worth their trouble unless they are willing to invest and do it right.
im not for nor against it to be honest.
there are (imo) alot of very narrow minded comments in this thread. people think these shops are only after a quick buck, the ruth is, is that you really dont realise how most pet shops are run!
i as some will know i work casually in a pet shop on the weekends. shops that want to sell reptiles in NSW will be very carefully selected requiring staff to attend training and understand the husbandary of reps, not only that surely poeple realise that there are a large number of pet shops that have no desire to sell reptiles nor their products.
the truth is, is that animals need to be sold at about 300% of the purchase price, how can you tell me that a shop will buy a jungle for 400 and manage to even get 1000 for it? the animals that are wanted to be sold are the easy to keep and sell animals that require products (cause thats where the money is made) think about this, how much does a beardie or turtle setup cost from a pet shop? your looking at a $100 lizard and $500 in products. shops are more interested in stocking reptiles cause it will promote the sale of products that the animals needs.
as for impulse buys, if you dont have a liscence you dont get to buy the animal. if you dont have the requirements you dont get the animals. not only that, people have mentioned that sales will encourage hybrids......? hows this? its illegal to breed them and it will be most likely against the law for the shops to sell them (this is what i hear).also as for a shop selling animals that require force feeding (mentioned in a previous post) its ilegal, we cant sell birds or any other animal that cant feed on its own, if the animal goes off food it would be covered under the health garentee (as long as the buyer is responsibly and properly looking after it). these shops dont want to rip you off or feed you crap info....they want your business and for you to come back time and time agian!
of course there are shops that will be crap, they will also make no money out of it and will most likely stop stocking the animals
as i said im not for it, this post is just in responce to some comments i keep hearing on this site. yes some shops will be bad, but im sure there are several people in this thread having a slag that keep their animals in terrible conditions. it happens more often then id like to think but with shops having rules and the licence to sell reps going to cost ALOT of money, its not worth their trouble unless they are willing to invest and do it right.
mick_304
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I'm not for or against but Who honestly would want to buy from a pet shop. have you seen the price of anything in there everything is at least 20% mark-up versus a shop that only deals in reptiles. So imagine what the cost of a reptile would be.
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Central Bearded Dragon Very Rare Breed Normal Colours
Special Price of $599 Great Deal Without Enclosure
Thats something i will see eventually a huge giant markup.......
Special Price of $599 Great Deal Without Enclosure
Thats something i will see eventually a huge giant markup.......
BJC-787
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every one keeps saying that it happens like this in pet shops in another state so it will happen here it is not the case i think that nsw has the most strict set of laws in regards to keeping reptiles in a private collection so why would they not have really strict rules in the selling of reptiles in pet shops.
"I'm not for or against but Who honestly would want to buy from a pet shop"
Lots of people, as Wokka pointed out, Reptile owners are confined to the Maccas carparks, someone who has no idea on keeping them or no about internet forums, etc etc etc.
As for prices being exorborant, I dont think so either, what happens when the pet shop owner breeds the animals? He can sell them at normal price. Will get more business for doing so too.
Jump up and down all you like, I told you 6 months ago this was going to happen and everyone said 'no it wont'...
Now, the key is, as I said then, to get it right.
Lots of people, as Wokka pointed out, Reptile owners are confined to the Maccas carparks, someone who has no idea on keeping them or no about internet forums, etc etc etc.
As for prices being exorborant, I dont think so either, what happens when the pet shop owner breeds the animals? He can sell them at normal price. Will get more business for doing so too.
Jump up and down all you like, I told you 6 months ago this was going to happen and everyone said 'no it wont'...
Now, the key is, as I said then, to get it right.
VERY true!! i work in a shop and still think its crazy to buy things there....haha. the prices are much higher then we are use to so im sure very few members will buy anything. the number of new keepers will be massive for the hobby in terms of new interest and possabilities! cant see impulse buys of beardies, blueis and turtles for 200 each.
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I can see people buying reptiles from pet shops and loosing interest not far down the tack. They will likely dump them in the wild thinking that's where they came from in the first place.
Look how many cats and dogs are dumped because they grow up.
I am against pet shops selling reptiles. If it happes (which no doubt it will), there needs to be very tight conditions placed on the owners and workers in those shops.
Look how many cats and dogs are dumped because they grow up.
I am against pet shops selling reptiles. If it happes (which no doubt it will), there needs to be very tight conditions placed on the owners and workers in those shops.
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some pet shops do some cruel things. i have no experiece with reptiles yet but i know what they do to fish. in some shops they tatoo the fish, dye them different colours, chop tails off so the fish look like love hearts etc ..
so if they start selling snakes what tricks could they get up to.
with that said some petshops will refuse to sell you animals if you dont have the right equipment to take care of them but more often then not they will sell you anything you want.
so if they start selling snakes what tricks could they get up to.
with that said some petshops will refuse to sell you animals if you dont have the right equipment to take care of them but more often then not they will sell you anything you want.
bcurko
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All it takes bennett is a flashing wad of cash or a credit card voila you have your sale.
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I agree it isnt such a good idea to have them available in pet shops i believe like WA alot of herps will be misstreated and also that even though you will be required to have a licence a flash of money could do the trick becuase face it there are people out therer trying 2 make a quick dollar. Not that im saying that will be the case everywhere
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the only way it will be cheaper in shops is if the person breeds them. otherwise buying and selling wont be profitable, but hey, if a shop opens up and they want a breeder or keep to work there, then i would be glad to get payed, look after and play with the snakes for them, just to keep them from being to nippy ofcourse lol. it would be a good job for someone who loves pythons and it will reflect in the quallity of the snake.......not really for or against
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