spoilt disobedient dog. how do I approach owners?

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Thankyou so much Amy! I will be passing on alot of this information to its owners, not to make them feel stupid, but as a suggestive way. and I will be trying this stuff from now on until it goes home. again thanks so much for all your info. You obviously love what you study! and im hoping to get into something similar too. :)

Hey no dramas! Critters are awesome, I live to give. I actually found animal behaviour to incredibly fascinating when I studied it. It’s something I’ve always loved and I’ve been working with and studying critters since I was 9, I couldn’t think of anything better. I just finished work experience at a pet shop and absolutely LOVED it.
I hope you get into something yourself, it can be very rewarding. You’ve just got to keep trying because it’s very competitive. As for the dog, good luck!
 
I have a bull mastiff x rotty and when I was training him not to do things, I had a spray bottle filled with water and a very small amount of lemon juice. When I wanted him to stop being naughty I yelled BAAAAH in a very loud voice and sprayed him from the bottle, he learned very quickly what he wasn't allowed to do.
 
In my experience with dogs this breed is renown for being spoilt, particularly if not trained and socialised early on.

My mate had one...It was a house dog...it used to pee everywhere and would howl if he left the house...he lives with his mum and someone always had to be home...stopped him from going away on w/ends and everything.

It had to be put down about a year ago..old age and getting paralysed...and what did they do..went out and got another small yappy dog that does exactly the same thing...they spoil it rotten and it runs the house.

There's a lot of truth to the saying "there is no such thing as bad kids/dog..just bad owners"...and owners who spoil kids/animals are just as bad as neglectful owners in some respects.

Little yappy dogs do tend to get spoilt yeah, they are lap dogs and people buy the simply because they are cute. But small dogs need just as much training as big dogs. They also tend to get anxiety easily as well because when people see them the first thing they do is jump straight onto it to pat it and praise it, which is obviously going to be scary for something so small.
People tend to read certain behaviours incorrectly, such as rolling over, and it can lead to other behavioural problems. I think the royalty treatment tends to be reserved for the smaller dogs as they are less threatening, a big dog acting the same way, chasing another dog down the street and biting it, barking at everything, general misbehaving, none of that would be tolerated for a second.
 
If the dog is fully grown and its angular deformity does not cause pain or limping then the vet may be serious when he says it doesn't need to be operated on. It's major surgery that should not be undertaken if it's not needed. Just so you know. Angular limb deformities are relatively common in these types of dogs.
 
Chuckface, you need to watch Ceaser Millan..the dog whisperer.
I doubt the owners will do anything as sounds to me that they can't see anything wrong with it's behaviour.
 
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Wise words from Amy. All I'd add is that while the pooch is in your care I'd be using a crate or carrier. Let the dog have that small confined area so it feels more secure... and so you have control of where it is when you're not interacting with it. Get some nice smelly metwurst or Kabana and spend an hour getting it to sit and drop.

My ex in-laws had an unruly little chihuahua that's hopeless with them. We looked after it for a few weeks some years ago, and when we'd visit them it still responded to us and obeyed the basic sit and drop commands. I know we humans have an overwhelming desire to be independent, but dogs have an overwhelming desire to be a part of a pack, to know their place in the pack, and to follow the alpha.
 
I show my dog and sit with a few ****zu people at shows. They are some of the most pampered and babied dogs when it comes to brushing and preparation for shows, but these ones still are obedient enough to sit on trolleys when they're told to, stand up when they're told to and don't move when they're told to.

All dogs can be obedient (even the small fluffy ones), it depends on the owners how much work actually gets done to make this possible. So even small fluffy dogs can be perfect angels!

I also lived with my aunt for a while when we were building our house, she has a 3 year old retriever x labrador which has had little training. It used to jump on everyone, snatch food, and basically not listen to anyone unless her dinner was in your hands. Our dogs aren't perfect but they do what they're told, and I found her dog quite annoying while we were living there, it some times made me angry. We were there for about 9 months all up, so overe that time I took it on myself to train her dog. I had her sitting and staying, she stopped jumping on everyone. Although my aunt still needed to walk her more often (which helps a lot) she was more controllable around the house. But walking a dog doesn't always seem a big thing, but the mental stimulation they get plays a huge role in their behaviour when at home.

So I understand your situation, but all you can do is become boss of this dog while it's in your care so it doesn't rule your life. If the other family doesn't want to fix it, they will have to live with the problems. Dogs live by a ranking system, if they feel they are higher than you they wont listen, but as long as you sit higher in the chain you will be ok till it goes home. The loud chain and "bah" ideas above are a good idea. They do work, but consistancy is going to be your best friend.
 
I own two slippers (maltese and maltese X ****zu)
the full maltese he is now 3 years old ,and has settled down and become a really good friendly dog ..99% of the time he does what is expected of him ,he is socially friendly towards everything ..except CARS he has no idea about them and so cant be trusted to be anywhere near a moving one as I doubt he would get out of the way ...
My other one is 18mths old SHE(the X) is still in terrible puppy stage ...barks when she shouldnt and so on ...but with time and effort hope she gets up there with her male companion....she is more stand offish with humans and other dogs and it has nothing to do with not being socialised as we treat both dogs the same ,I think its just in her makeup ..and yes I do spoil them I know I do ...but regardless of what you say people with bigger breeds spoil their dogs too ..not just the small owned ones .....;)
 
first of all WOW amy22 great advice :) i was going to try and help after reading the first post as i breed and train working dogs but i think smart amy has summed it up pretty well. And what fay said you can actually get dvd's of ceasar millan now who can give guide to guide training of dogs for most situations... good for a house dog any way. :D
 
Thankyou everyoe for your help! essentially, in 2 days its going to be all up to the owners to do something about. but i can try all you guys suggested while its here. again thanks everyone! good stuff to know in the future too!
 
Just got slammed with a $150 fine for the dog today for biting the other dog. his owners will definately have a shock comign to them.
 
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