there is a different way and a much better way of disciplining and punishing kids, it is not physical abuse.
Thats the problem. All power is taken away. Nobody has the right to discipline people. I mean, ****, even criminals are coddled because of all this soft stuff. Whats this better way you speak of? If I did something wrong I got hit. And you know what, I thought f, I'm not doing that again. I'm not saying everybody beat your kids, but man, show some backbone. It is important that kids are disciplined, the quality of kids is declining rapidly. No joke. Just in the past five years, huge difference in attitude and behaviour. Teachers aren't allowed to discipline students. They cant break up fights between students without looking at assault charges. To me that is BS.
Something needs to change. Parents get in trouble for hitting their OWN kids. How is that right? People overseas get put to death for things more minor that our people get a slap on the wrist for.
If the cane was brought back into schools... the delinquent kids wouldn't bother even going (if they don't already).
There is always a reason kids like that are the way they are, they wouldn't do it for nothing. Physical punishment wouldn't help the cause in any way, it'd probably do more harm than good in the long run.
Disagree completely. If they behave that way why should their education be paid for while they corrupt, assault and hinder the education of others, willing to cooperate and behave? Why are we forcing them into school? If they aren't willing to follow the rules, good riddance. The sooner they are of no burden the better. Maybe then they might mature.
Nobody likes getting hit. Bit of negative reinforcement never goes astray.
I agree with the tougher sentences, you are spot on with that.
A simplistic solution for a complex problem.
Does the threat of cancer stop people smoking?
Does the obvious health problem prevent people from eating a McDonalds?
Does the near certain promise of severe injury stop people racing motorbikes?
Bar the last one, they are long term things. Not an instant punishment for a misdoing. They are also all things that harm the individual. Not so much anybody else (smoking harms others as well, so inconsiderate to smoke near people)
In the last 50yrs we have seem some of the most important people empowering changes and I expect the future has more install.
But you need balance. Empowering the individual takes power away from the whole.
The problem with today is that there are so many damn bleeding hearts, it has produced a nation of weak, self absorbed losers who won't do anything to improve their lot, expecting the free ride that our stupid government gives them. These people smoke, drink and breed and then expect someone else to bring up their lost kid.
We have an impotent legal system that puts more strain on the country and does nothing for victims of crime. I live and let live but if some juvie delinquent thinks he can put one over me, the cops won't even get a call. I don't give a rats if he's come from a broken home or not.
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We have taken away the power of the people who are supposed to protect society, the police. If they so much as raise a hand they are condemned to investigations and what. Now they are afraid to do their job. If a drunk teen hits a bouncer or an officer of the law I believe they should be able to give it back and then some. Often the retaliator of violence cops as much penalty as the initiator, that is not right!
What makes you think kids that are disciplined harshly dont run off and turn to the street life because they cant handle the strict environment?
Plenty of kids end up on the street because their parents punish to the point of abuse, that is one of the reasons why society has turned against corporal punishment.
There are other ways to keep your kids inline and they are proven to be just as if not more effective
No! Talking solves nothing at the age where they need to be taught what they can and can't get away with. Disciplining needs to be done harshly! If the kid is raised right then they'd never run away because they'd understand they were only punished for their own misdeed.
Just what our armed services need, dysfunctional youths with anger issues.
With a bunch of peers who will keep them in line, yes. If they don't get in trouble for keeping them in line LOL.
Flogging wouldn't work.
I'm not saying this is bad, but when I was 9, my teacher used to grab my collar, push me against the wall, and yell at me, for calling out/talking in class... which I did a lot.
I kept doing it, it did nothing.
I did it until last year, when I got into keeping frogs.
You're twelve. You don't know what has or hasn't worked yet
While junenile crime is as mentioned out of control parents and the way kids are bought up have a lot to do with it In america they have a program in some prisons that repeat offenders are taken to the jails there and spoken to some of the long term crimms and told exactly what life there is like every person has the choice to be a good person or not
Thats another problem too. Prison isn't prison anymore. Tvs, good food, comfy beds, clean clothes, education. This isn't punishment. If somebody wants a free ride they can just commit a crime and go there. They get a good run, and costs them nothing... The tax payer on the other hand (which these people generally aren't BTW because centrelink will give money to anybody) Make prison hard again, do the crime and do the time. And make the time as unenjoyable as possible to stop them ending up there again
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