Australia Zoo Survival

[Specks]

Simple
Bob Irwin - putting his money where his mouth is and helping the environment
Steve Irwin - Total tool
Terri - Probably screwed herself with the lack of direction.

really jannico really?
so you you are basically putting it that it would of been better off that steve and terri never existed.
if find utter disgust in this post

 

[Waterrat]

As for what SI did for conservation. I don't think anyone can argue that he did nothing. He locked up reasonably large areas of land from being cleared and devolped.

How much is the "locked up land" worth (to the family)? I had to lough when missus Irwin mortally shot herself in the foot. After they acquired the Cape York property, which is an ex- cattle grazing land and came to them with x number head of cattle worth x number of $$$, she said in a press release "we are going to keep the cattle there because they're now part of the Cape York ecology". I guess her advisors had a day off. That's conservation for you.

 

[PilbaraPythons]

Steve Irwin no doubt generated good tourism dollars for the country, was great entertainment and yes, promoted conservation through the media outlets.
That however doesn't mean he was clean behind the scenes which I can confirm he wasn't. I know that he and a comrade illegally removed green pythons from a national park when his collection permit was about to expire and he had come up empty handed.
Perhaps I would have done the same thing in that situation but I am just stating what happened.
One thing I didn't like the bloke for though, was he simply was a real (deleted) to many of my good reptile keeping friends, a hyporcrite, a liar and arguably a fauna thief. Balancing it all out though and in the bigger picture I guess he was worth while.

 

[spotlight]

i find this funny!! you start picking on jags and your tread gets removed but if you pick on a person who has past away and his still alive family it is left alone to go on and on ???.
im not a steve lover but i believe in respect!!.

 

[Waterrat]

but i believe in respect!!.

and I believe in the truth. Respectful truth.
It seems that too many, specially young people have been misguided.

 

[Wild~Touch]

and I believe in the truth. Respectful truth.
It seems that too many, specially young people have been misguided.

And I will second the above ..
Young people are our future and they have the right to know the truth
Cheers
Sandee

 

[fugawi]

I seem to remember seeing somewhere they bought a lot of ex-farmland and replanted with native plants and trees preparing for the re-release of native animals....how did that end up?

 

[Ozzie Python]

And I will second the above ..
Young people are our future and they have the right to know the truth
Cheers
Sandee

i agree sandee, we just got to get someone to tell us the truth and tales of you older herpers

there are a number of old threads on this site that people can search and read up on. i found a few interesting ones a while ago regarding gtp's and court case results, or lack of results for some. certainly opened my eyes up to what used to go on in the good old days.

 

[saximus]

and I believe in the truth. Respectful truth.
It seems that too many, specially young people have been misguided.

I don't know the details (I'd love someone to PM me with more specifics about it ) but I agree entirely with this statement. Just because someone is dead, all of their bad actions don't disappear. Someone who is seen as such a "role model" should be described how they really are/were, good and bad

 

[Snakeluvver2]

really jannico really?
so you you are basically putting it that it would of been better off that steve and terri never existed.
if find utter disgust in this post

Never said that at all. I just simply stated that Terri is screwed, Australia Zoo will never be at the status it was when Steve was alive and Steve was a ****a.
What's your problem, that I don't like someone you do?
Steve was hypocrite, straight off the bat, at least his dad is and generally always was doing something for the environment rather than making a joke of himself on TV and you can argue that Steve did many things for conservation, but give me some clear cut examples like Waterrat said?
Disgusting? No, you just can't read.

 

[Waterrat]

Some believe that S.I. has done a lot for research. Let me tell you one story - a factual one:

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

The crocodile tracking research few years ago was conducted by a senior QPWS officer xxxxxxx (can't name him here). S.I. financed the cost of transmitters and satellite tracking time. In return, he secured himself an exclusive filming rights (catching crocs, mounting transmitters, release, etc.) which translates to a lot of money once sold to the media. On top of that, he was allowed to run a tourist operation on Lakefield NP. Do you remember the ads ..... "spend 3 days with S.I. on his luxury research vessel in Lakefield ...."? Other tour operators were denied access to the place. After xxxxx left the Service, an internal investigation revealed that no official permits were issued to S.I., it was an underhanded deal with xxxxx.
One thing goes to S.I,'s credit, he didn't pretend to be one of the researchers.

 

[horseychic]

My hubby and i went to australia zoo two years ago and were not that impressed, was expensive to get in and my god the food prices made you cringe. the only good thing about it was the show in the main arena. To us it seemed over commercialised and having statues/pictures of them everywhere was just annoying. God knows how an average family would be able to afford to do it. We got better value out of the theme parks.

 

[hrafna]

i must admit, i didn't know all the facts either, would love to hear it all in pm if you wanna divulge. i never really watched his show but i did like the message he put out about not all animals being the scary monsters they are made out to be ie snakes and sharks. having said that there are plenty of others out there doing the same thing today (and without the profiteering) i developed an interest in snakes from stories my dad told me about eric worrell when he was a kid growing up in gosford!

 

[PilbaraPythons]

You all should hear of Rob McClouds run in with Steve Irwin when Steve turned up at Aussie world and had a go and Rob who was running the reptile business on behalf of John Keaty at the time. Rob refused to be held up but said Steve could come in if he paid the entry fee. Apparantey smoke was nearly coming out of poor Steves ears. Hopefully Rob will post, it was really quite funny at the time.

 

[waruikazi]

How much is the "locked up land" worth (to the family)? I had to lough when missus Irwin mortally shot herself in the foot. After they acquired the Cape York property, which is an ex- cattle grazing land and came to them with x number head of cattle worth x number of $$$, she said in a press release "we are going to keep the cattle there because they're now part of the Cape York ecology". I guess her advisors had a day off. That's conservation for you.

I don't know what it is worth and, while i personally think that the money that the land has earnt the family is none of our business, for certain types of ecosystems to be saved they need to be able to make money in their natural state. He may have bought up the land to make money off but he also stopped that land from being developed. I think that is commendable and if i was in the same position i would consider doing something similar.

I don't know the particular story you are referring too and if it is true it certeraintly is a foot in mouth moment for Terri.

I personally didn't like him alot while he was alive. I don't think he had an awful lot of respect for the animals he made his living off, i think myself and anyone who shared that sentiment were proven right in the end. With that said i absolutely admired his passion and i think what he did and what his name has done for conservation and Australian tourism was worth his while.

 

[giglamesh]

Sea Shepard....

 

[snakeluvver]

I understand peoples points but steve has saved a lot of land from developers that were going to mine on or build on it. Thats conservation.
Sorry guys I know you may not like him but I think its a bit rude to talk badly about someone who passed away (except serial killers, pedophiles ect as they are evil people), as they have no way to defend themselves and their honor and justify their actions.

 

[giglamesh]

could someone please link to where it says he was against keepers? or is that just here say also?

 

[cement]

Considering what some politicians, business men, council officers, priests, etc do, I call Steve one of the good ones.

I never had a run in with him... but there is always at least one thing I don't like about everybody, after getting to know them, even my best mates. But that's life, no-one is perfect.

His shows were loved by a lot of kids, through a kids eye there was excitement and a look at wildlife. Who knows some of these kids may grow up with the wrong impression of the guy, but the right impression about wildlife and saving habitat.

Plus he died early, who knows what he might have achieved if still kicking.

 

[snakeluvver]

I have met him once and he seemed nice enough :?