Rare species in captivity ballot

[Jeffa]

Very hypothetical question, but just say a house gets raided by DERM and a few species not under licence goes to ballot. What happens if the species for example is a white lipped python or a rock monitor that is rare or non existant in captivity? Would the ballot system, zoos or specialist breeders get a chance at bringing these guys into captivity.

Now people, just a hypothetical question and no I dont and dont know anyone under the suspicion.

Any thoughts?

 

[GeckPhotographer]

If it is something that is not listed on license then yes a zoo could take it, otherwise it would be euthanized. If it is on license but virtually absent in captivity I am not totally sure.

 

[Asharee133]

white lips are "exotic"

 

[GeckoJosh]

DECCW would not support a rare species entering the hobby in such a manner

 

[Jeffa]

DECCW would not support a rare species entering the hobby in such a manner

Maybe not, but what would happen? Zoos or private collectors? Either way are these options for future captive programmes?

The reason I ask is I have been concerned about the possibile downturn spiral in species due to it being land clearance, cane toads and other factors that humans may have an inpact on species that are poorly known in captivity. (always good to have a safeguard)

Are white lipped pythons classified as exotic???

 

[reptilian1924]

White Lipped Pythons a not classified as exotic, l know 2 were once kept on a private licence by some well known aussie reptile keeper, who l wont mention the name of on here for private reason.

They a found on some islands of the coast in North Queensland, you can see where they do accure here in Australia, by viewing Harold Coggers books which have map distributions listed in it.

 

[Australis]

Mistaken Identification aside, there was intent to disperse jeweled geckos this way via a NSW ballot.
http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/general-reptile-discussion-42/jewelled-geckos-free-109957/

Obviously different with an endemic species compared to something like a White lipped python that isn't endemic to Australia.

 

[Snakewise84]

the white lip is auzzie its in my austrailan reptile book they are rare. but have not seen them listed in the recatrational licence or restricted licence

 

[reptilian1924]

According to Harold Gogger book Reptiles and Amphibians of Australia, the White Lipped Python-Liasis Albertisii, is only known from the Northern Islands of Torres Strait, lying close to New Guinea.
The colour of the Australian Specimens is grey-brown with darker heads, lips pale cream, average length about 2 metres, maximum about 3 metres.

 

[Jeffa]

White Lipped Pythons a not classified as exotic, l know 2 were once kept on a private licence by some well known aussie reptile keeper, who l wont mention the name of on here for private reason.

They a found on some islands of the coast in North Queensland, you can see where they do accure here in Australia, by viewing Harold Coggers books which have map distributions listed in it.

From memory they were both males.
I know that the ooenpeli python has the approval to be in captive breeding programmes in the near future. Would it be a hard ask to get some rare or non existant monitor, gecko or any other species in captivity before its too late?

 

[GeckoJosh]

Maybe not, but what would happen? Zoos or private collectors? Either way are these options for future captive programmes?

What happens to them is up to DECCW, all I know is they would not end up on a ballot, if the species was rare in captivity but still kept in some collections (like Jewelled geckos for example) then a ballot would be an option