naughty puppy

[alrightknight]

Hey ive had malamutes and huskies before, they I vary excitable as pups and love to play "rough" you need a really firm hand when training them otherwise when they get bigger (espeacially malamutes) you will have a lot of trouble stopping them from chasing anything they say. They are not generally vicious, more very boisterous and excitable dogs, put this with their strength and they are known to become dangerous when they play. so As I said before you need a very firm hand when training and disciplining them.

 

[Kelly86]

Hey ive had malamutes and huskies before, they I vary excitable as pups and love to play "rough" you need a really firm hand when training them otherwise when they get bigger (espeacially malamutes) you will have a lot of trouble stopping them from chasing anything they say. They are not generally vicious, more very boisterous and excitable dogs, put this with their strength and they are known to become dangerous when they play. so As I said before you need a very firm hand when training and disciplining them.

Thats exactly what he is, malamute x husky. the vet toldd us thats what they're like aswell. What do you mean a firm hand? i do train with treats and pats and if he doesnt co-operate he gets ignored, told no and no treat. he is smart and does learn well, im just not sure how to do it properly when it comes to the birds, he just wants to get them and doesnt seem to care that its wrong, he knows its wrong because as soon as he sees me comming he runs and hides...

 

[kawasakirider]

Do what notechis said with the spraygun. That should deter him. It's not going to work in a situation where a dog is riled up, though.

 

[Dipcdame]

We found with our dogs years ago that a rolled up newspaper across the backside works wonders ............. it's not the hurt, cause it doesn't actually hurt, but the sound that frightens them. Never had to use them for long, they learned that the sight of a newspaper meant trouble, and they would stop whatever they were doing. there was no fear, just a "Oops, that thing again!!" A very good deterrent, in fact, we would crack the paper on our own hands and legs just to make the noise, that stopped the dogs in their tracks!!!!

 

[Kelly86]

Do what notechis said with the spraygun. That should deter him. It's not going to work in a situation where a dog is riled up, though.

i agree its a good idea, but the dog only does it when everyone is asleep or its late. when he got the bird it woke me up too late to get there in time.

 

[eitak]

i agree its a good idea, but the dog only does it when everyone is asleep or its late. when he got the bird it woke me up too late to get there in time.

Perimeter collar I guess (if its in your budget). If he's not doing it when your around you can't punish him. If you have a perimeter collar and set up the wire around the bird cage if he even goes near it he'll get a small shock.

 

[Kelly86]

Perimeter collar I guess (if its in your budget). If he's not doing it when your around you can't punish him. If you have a perimeter collar and set up the wire around the bird cage if he even goes near it he'll get a small shock.

thanx guys, do you's know if these are allowed in the rain? i have no cover in the yard (the bird cages have their own covers of course) but the wires could get wet if it rains

 

[hypochondroac]

I really think the way things are happening you should have gone with a less excitable and driven breed.

I work with every breed of dog under the sun full time and i wouldn't call husky's or malamutes easy to manage. They need ALOT of exercise, training and discipline. I'm sorry but in my opinion a collar is a poor choice to correctly train a dog. I'd rather establish the rules with insctructions, not a prop. Obviously if you're not home and somehow the dog has access to the birds some kind of boundary needs to be made.

Can i ask how the husky was able to get to the bird? Are they not kept in cages?

Treats and toys can be very good tools for getting attention initially but you can't depend on them 100% of the time. Dogs learn to ignore you when they know you don't have something they want and without consequences they will continue trying to get away with it. I prefer to use my voice, tones and hand signals.

Almost every naughty trait can be avoided or cured with a command and some patience but one thing i will not stand for is aggression - In general, to people or other animals. I meet way too many dogs and owners that have their relationships completely turned upside down. Dogs have owners wrapped around their little paws.

 

[phantomreptiles]

+1

 

[alrightknight]

BAsicly they are a dog that gets bored easy, and if that happens they get destructive. You really need to to tire them out. By firm hand you need to let them know they are doing something wrong ignoring them makes them destructive, you need to firmly tell them no flick them on the nose or some other form of discomfort, If they recognise doing something with discomfort they will stop. I think puppy school would be great thatway you get alot more experience training them, but they get excerise and also get to socialise with other dogs, so other animals don't get him going all the time. For soem reason they love trying to catch birds, I dont understand why.

Dogs 101: Alaskan Malamute : Video : Animal Planet watch this video it is quite inciteful.

 

[Kelly86]

I really think the way things are happening you should have gone with a less excitable and driven breed.

I work with every breed of dog under the sun full time and i wouldn't call husky's or malamutes easy to manage. They need ALOT of exercise, training and discipline. I'm sorry but in my opinion a collar is a poor choice to correctly train a dog. I'd rather establish the rules with insctructions, not a prop. Obviously if you're not home and somehow the dog has access to the birds some kind of boundary needs to be made.

Can i ask how the husky was able to get to the bird? Are they not kept in cages?

Treats and toys can be very good tools for getting attention initially but you can't depend on them 100% of the time. Dogs learn to ignore you when they know you don't have something they want and without consequences they will continue trying to get away with it. I prefer to use my voice, tones and hand signals.

Almost every naughty trait can be avoided or cured with a command and some patience but one thing i will not stand for is aggression - In general, to people or other animals. I meet way too many dogs and owners that have their relationships completely turned upside down. Dogs have owners wrapped around their little paws.

the birds are in big cages, sorta like aviaries. they are parrots and crawl along the bars.... so the dog got the parrot whilst it had its feet through the bars...
i would have fenced off the yard so they could be seperated but im not allowed to do ANYTHING that would wreck the ground, we have constant inspections. i cant buy a pet barrier because the dog can jump really well....

thanks everyone that has been nice and offered good advice,
hypochondroac, i have not chosen the wrong breed, how was i to know he would oneday try to eat the same birds he has grown up with?! i didnt post this thread to be judged, i was simply asking for some help and advice on what i can do...
my dog gets more then enough exercise and is very well looked after, he is a really good dog normally and i dont know why he has been doing this the past week. i do understand what your saying but im not perfect and just needed some advice on this one thing, he is perfectly taken care of properly, like every animal i have i've spent a long time researching before i got them.

 

[gavman]

First off let me say I am sorry you have experienced these things. It is so much harder when it is another family member’s pet. I take it that your sister is not considering giving up her dog.

These are some ideas based on information in the thread and you may already be doing some of these things.

These dogs are extremely pack oriented. All family members must be higher in the pack order than the dog. The first thing I would suggest is to re-establish the pack order. This may not be as strongly established in the dogs mind as you might think. In the dog's perception theecent incidents may have heightened his dominance in the family pack. You must all agree upon behaviours that are acceptable for the dog as a powerful adult and start establishing these behaviours in the puppy consistently.

Like hypochondriac I am not a big fan of the collars as a training aid and prefer to train a dog through commands, tone, non- verbals and hand signals and positive re-enforcement . I also think that Sarah11 put forward some great behavioural suggestions that maintain a hierarchy over the dog. At his age I would skip puppy school and go straight in to obedience classes.

With exercise, plan the walks so you have multiple variations - do the circuit clockwise in the morning and anti clockwise in the evening. Have longer walks and change the streets you use. During the day have short but multiple training sessions repeating some of the obedience class exercises. These dogs really need physical and mental stimulation. Since it is your sister’s dog she needs to take the lead role in this. If the dog is highly prey oriented I would not suggest games that overstimulate that response – like chasing balls.

In regards to your parrots and the situation that happened, think like the dog. How wonderful and exciting to have these things that are noisy, colourful, react and move when I come near – much more interesting than a ball. Since you can neither remove the birds or the dog from the area, I don’t think you have a choice but to use a temporary barrier that has a strong determent association. The dog has to associate going near the birds as a really bad decision on his part.

While this is something I would not normally suggest or have ever used, there are styles of pet fences that are electrified, suitable for pets and use quite thin rods that will not affect the ground and could be removed when the agent comes around. Check state laws in regards to using them. Or you could try a citronella spray collar and have him on a cable run.

 

[85Hickey]

This is a common problem in huskys. But "everyone" wants one. Not many people think about learning the breed first, and those who do are smart, knowing they cant fulfill the needs of the animal, they usually wont take on the roll of the breed. Hopefully not another who turns up at the pound.

 

[Kelly86]

thanks gavman, he isnt a bad dog, he is actually a great dog usually. he is well looked after and we are trying to do it properly, i think we have been doing a good job so far, but when i didnt know what to do about the birds, i asked for help.
thanks for your advice, i have found some pool type fencing that might be perfect and easy to put up and take down- with no damage.


No, this dog will never and up in a pound, i dont believe in getting animals and getting rid of them, to me they are like children and once we own them they are our responsibility forever...

 

[KaotikJezta]

This is a common problem in huskys. But "everyone" wants one. Not many people think about learning the breed first, and those who do are smart, knowing they cant fulfill the needs of the animal, they usually wont take on the roll of the breed. Hopefully not another who turns up at the pound.

Hilarious, pitbulls are a messed up breed because they kill, but huskies have owners that don't know how to care for them so they kill. How hypocritical.

Sorry to hijack Kelly, as for your problem, my BIL's Malamute killed my sons cat so I understand how hard it is for you. They are very prey oriented but you have been given some good advise and hopefully your sister will take it on board and it will all work out for you.

 

[Kelly86]

Hilarious, pitbulls are a messed up breed because they kill, but huskies have owners that don't know how to care for them so they kill. How hypocritical.

Sorry to hijack Kelly, as for your problem, my BIL's Malamute killed my sons cat so I understand how hard it is for you. They are very prey oriented but you have been given some good advise and hopefully your sister will take it on board and it will all work out for you.

thanks yes we are doing what has been sugested, and i am very grateful to those of youwho are helping me, like i said before im doing the right thing BY asking for advice, i dont understand how some people are being judgmental when they dont know me and how much i really do look after my animals, it does make me sad because we did so much research before we got the dog, but things do go wrong... no matter how prepared you are... i find it hurtful that people come on here for advice, and get shut down for asking for help. i dont really have any friends and im a single mother doing it tough atm.... i dont have anyone else to ask.......