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Oh im so sorry to here this. Im glad you rang and decided to try for op B. Good luck and I hope that they understand and nothing more happens.
 
A mate of mine had this happen to him all he had to do was pay a fine $800 and have his dog desexed
 
I have talked to a dog trainer today and he has advised that a) I take one of my small dogs outside and see if the dogs next door do the same thing and video tape it, b) get a letter from him (and he said he will even come to court if he has to) stating the dog was provoked and I have arranged retraining with him. He believes the attack was incited by the neighbours dogs and the fact that it happened on my property all goes in my favour. I really hope the neighbours are big enough dog lovers that they understand though, the prospect of court is not pleasant. If he is declared dangerous I need a pen with a concrete floor to keep him in but the trainer said they can't legally stop me having him in the house with me.
 
We had our huskies get nextdoor and kill a few chickens completley different scenario but all the coucil cared about was that the dogs were registered and the yard was secure after they broke through we fixed it up didnt even get a fine or anything from the council we had to reimburse the neighbour for his chickens the entire ordeal cost us about $1300 as they were show quality chickens. although he had more than he was allowed on the proprty plus a rooster we decided to leave well enough alone. but i would get your dog back and offer to pay the family that have lost there dog and tell the council you and the neighbours will sort it out yourself. you may end up with the same result but at least you have then tried everything you can. comsierations to you and your neighbours. its hearbreaking to hear Jezta.
 
We had our huskies get nextdoor and kill a few chickens completley different scenario but all the coucil cared about was that the dogs were registered and the yard was secure after they broke through we fixed it up didnt even get a fine or anything from the council we had to reimburse the neighbour for his chickens the entire ordeal cost us about $1300 as they were show quality chickens. although he had more than he was allowed on the proprty plus a rooster we decided to leave well enough alone. but i would get your dog back and offer to pay the family that have lost there dog and tell the council you and the neighbours will sort it out yourself. you may end up with the same result but at least you have then tried everything you can. comsierations to you and your neighbours. its hearbreaking to hear Jezta.

There's the rub, they wont give him back now without the neighbours saying it is ok. The lesson here is don't make rash decisions when not in the right mental state to think properly.
 
My parents also had pomeranians when i was a child on the odd occasion the neighbours rottweilers would pull a dog through the fence or dig under and get one. mum and dad where understandably destraught but also didnt want to see the other dogs destroyed either and never got the council involved i hope for your dogs sake its owners are much like my parents and will go down the same road would be devastating to see two dogs die over an accident where nobody but nature is at fault. dogs are naturally teritorial and have a pack mentality. so he would have seen the other dogs as competition in one form or another. i would suggest if the neighbours are willing socialise the dog with the neighbours remaining dogs and that should cut out barking and any aggression he may have towards them if they get through in the future. it can be trrained out of him so dont give up hope yet.
 
So glad there is a chance you can keep him. I was going to write my sympathies (which I still have to offer obviously), but now I just want you to hang in there and tough it out for yours and your dogs sake. Hopefully both dogs don't have to die because of a stupid mistake. I hope your neighbours do the right thing, and I think it's great that the professional will be willing to go to court with you if they don't. I'm thinking of you and your dog, KJ.
 
Can you try to explain your fragile state at the time, you weren't in the right frame of mind to make such a decision. It doesn't seem that the council have taken that into consideration at all. Especially when the neighbour's dog was killed on your property, and your dog wasn't invading your neighbour's yard.
All the best anyways.
 
There's the rub, they wont give him back now without the neighbours saying it is ok. The lesson here is don't make rash decisions when not in the right mental state to think properly.
call your neighbours asap if you have their number i'm so sorry to hear this for you and your neighbour. If you have a good relationship with them although they will be devestated they should hopefully be willing to deal with it without getting council involved
 
There's the rub, they wont give him back now without the neighbours saying it is ok. The lesson here is don't make rash decisions when not in the right mental state to think properly.

There's a lesson there K, but the ranger should have counselled you rather than acting as he did. Breathing space and time to get things into perspective (difficult I know, but time is a great helper here) are enormously important in any decisions you have to make right now. If you were able to keep the dogs separate for the next few days, and assess what needed to be done to make a permanent fix, it seems more sensible to me. You'll always feel terrible about what has happened, the important thing is to make sure it can never happen again.

The ranger is right out of order in saying the dog looks like it may have "pit bull" in it - it's very subjective comment and he wouldn't ever be able to prove it. It's just feeding the stupid hysteria that's all around us at the moment.

I hope some sense prevails and you & your dog get the support you need to get through this...

Jamie
 
Jack Russels are the bane of anyone with a big dog, many moons ago back in Surrey, in the Motherland, I was walking my Rottie x Newfy, in the local park, while talking to a lady walking her dog, when this lady pointed at a Jack that was hurtling toward us, and said oh no, be careful, that dog has killed several other dogs over here! This poxy rat, just launched at Barnie's throat, and was shaking for all it was worth, making no headway with my 12stone dogs, thick fur.....before i could kick them apart, Barny just shook him off, grabbed him, and broke his back, in the blink of an eye....then i had the Jacks female owner on my back screaming, that my dangerous dog should be on a lead....Barny never started a fight in his life, but always finished them!
No fan of little fight starters....my sympathies are with you....
 
I spent most of my life with Dobes, and acquired a stray Jack when she wandered in and wouldn't leave. She was an amazing little dog. I have two now, but I have to say I agree with C_R, they are often too big for their boots. They have huge personalities, but are way too confident for their own good sometimes. Unsupervised, they can cause trouble because they never give up...

Jamie
 
Thanks for the support guys. The neighbours still are not home. I am not holdiong out too much hope of them being understanding as they have had the dog in question since it was born. The thing is they are now also going to get fined by the council for having unregistered dogs.
 
this is the sort of mentality that is so sad when it comes to dogs in the modern day world. Was there any mention that your neighbours have done nothing to stop their dogs barking at the fence displaying an aggressive pack mentality? I understand that once "it" happens it cant be changed, but its just sad that because of the lack of effort from other dog owners that it has come to this for you. im so sorry to hear it.

im not sure also on how the laws differ in victoris now but here in nsw, any local council has to gove you 28 days writen notice befor they can take your dog off your property. Just something to look up or maybe ask someone in the know.
 
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Sorry to read about your dog...

It's sad what has happened with your dog, and as a big dog (G. Shepherd) owner I can imagine how you feel. I was glad to read that nothing is being done til Monday as that gives you and the neighbours time to settle down and think about the situation rationally, hopefully you've got decent neighbours. Good luck with it all.
 
have you thought about speaking to the neighbours and perhaps if you repair the fence and promis to keep your fella on a run. Although i know its not helpful at all, i have a mate who had the same problem a few years back with some jacks x malteese things, all he did was stop filling in the holes from where they where theying to dig under and attack his 35kg Mastiff x, lesson to the story, dogs that dont want to tow the line get "fixed" one way or another eventually.

what was the rangers responce?
 
The Ranger saying that your dog "looked" like it had pitbull in it is really doesn't help, and should have been more understanding given the situation. Especially as you have done everything you are obligated to do. Why punish the people that do the right thing and not the other way around?
You really should have been given more of an opportunity to have a think before surrendering your dog, I would be calling everyone possible in council informing them of your situation.
Get some legal advice, and quickly!
 
If you decide/have to go to court to fight for your dog, why not see if APS members would donate a few bucks for the court fees. I'd throw in a few bucks if it means a dog could be saved.
 
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