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Hi all, I am looking at purchasing a snake towards the second half of the year and had a few questions. As I am reluctant to feed with mice/rats, having owned them in the past, I was looking at buying a snake that predominantly feeds on fish or insects, like a Green Tree Snake or Keelback (Fresh Water Snake). I was wondering what size tank I should look at buying, although I was hoping to keep it in a paludarium. I understand that especially for the GTS a taller tank would be better? Also, for anyone who has kept either of these snakes, some general tips on both would be great.
Thanks
 
Maybe a lizard of some description would be a better option, have you considered a blue tongue or bearded dragon?


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For a healthy diet I think you would need to feed rats and mice aswell as fish.
 
I had one for years

Hi all,

Snakes and lizards/dragons are different in enough ways to say that to own a snake and share it's space is quite different to owning a lizard and I have dragons as well as snakes.

Dragons are a great pet but a snake is like a cat, it either accepts you as a part of it's life or not. A dragon is more like a dog and tends to be a bit sooky if raised as a pet rather than as a reptile with occasional handling, little socialisation etc.

I take my dragon to the local cafe and people ask "if it's alive" when it decides to turn and look at them. I also take a male juvenile bredlii around 15 months old, and there is absolutely no question if it's alive. People either hate it or love the idea of it being there. If they hate it, I point to the dogs sitting around the outskirts of the cafe.

I had a green tree snake well into it's 9th year (blue). He was friendly, curious and pretty and folk coming to my office got quite attached to him. When he passed at the age of 9 last year, it was likely an inadvertent dietary addition (a gecko that got into his tank unseen, which caused the problem. He lived on an uncoloured goldfish per day for his entire life. He was offered rats on several occasions, and was not in the slightest bit interested in them, so I didn't push the issue.

I found him easy to handle but you need to be very aware of his speed. If they get away you will have God's own job to get him back. They are difficult to sex and I didn't really try. He was blue enough to be considered to be a boy. If he had been a pink green tree snake I would have called him Greenhilda, but he wasn't so I didn't. He was blue, so he was called Herbie.

Hope it helps and please let me know how you get on.

Remember he needs lots of climbing, I suggest a small bird breeder box as cover over or beside a 10 watt heat mat. Mine was beside the hide, and he spent all day out in the open, watching every move of every person he saw. His nights were spent sleeping. He liked being handled a little, and got a lot of enjoyment from frightening the bejesus out of sub-continental Optus sales chaps, who would sit on the chair beside his tank (all glass), and he would suddenly pop up 6" from them, and took an obvious pleasure in doing so.

I also enjoyed him doing that.

He needs to be in an area with lots of light, around folks who appreciate him, and who will coo like geese saying ooh he's so cuuuute. This particular sound made him smile beautifully and endear him to folk who don't like snakes but found a bright blue on quite interesting. Lounge rooms and areas with managed temperature are best locations. Make sure he has a fish bowl to curl up in, and for added joy, feed the fish to him at the same time each day. That way he will actually be expecting them, and will sometimes ask you what is wrong with you when you are late.

He can go without food for a week and not suffer.

Mothers can be trained to like them also, but that can be quite difficult.

Good luck and please PM me when you get him so we can discuss differences.
 
As a keeper of animals that eat both live and thawed foods I would say it is a lot easier to feed thawed food (mice, rats, quail etc.) than live foods (crickets, woodies, etc.). Thawed food you just store in the freezer until needed, live food you need to care for, feed, water etc. until it is needed, so it is like having another pet all together and in my case they need more attention then my gecko and frogs that eat them.
You must also consider that in order to feed fish as a staple diet, they must be kept too. So you also run the risk of developing the same affiliation to feeding mice as feeding fish. You may view them as your pets also.
I had pet mice as child so I know where you are coming from and for over a year of owning my first snake I wouldn't directly touch the food item. Trust me you get over it. A "standard" (antaresia or morelia) pet snake would be much easier to care for as a first snake than jumping in and getting a "niche" market snake such as a GTS. I believe they handle all the first time keeper mistakes much better.
On the topic of feeding fish, this http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/australian-snakes-37/thiaminase-colubrids-172414/ highlights some potential issues with only feeding GOLDfish, including a Thiamine deficiency which can lead to blindness.

I also want to point out that taking any reptile to a cafe for kicks is against your license conditions. Don't do it.
 
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Lot of garbage on this thread..when I have a problem with any of my snakes, I'll let you know.
As monica correctly stated, cts can, and do, happily live on a fish only diet.
 
Sorry to hijack the thread.
How do the effects of thiaminase (from feeding goldfish) affect green tree snakes or snakes that feed on them. Surely this will create some horrific problems.....
 
Surprised only one person has gone ahead and said that tree snakes just don't make good beginner animals.

Might just have to suck it up and get something that eats rats, rather than an extremely agile snake that you're possibly going to have loads of trouble with.
 
Surprised only one person has gone ahead and said that tree snakes just don't make good beginner animals.

Might just have to suck it up and get something that eats rats, rather than an extremely agile snake that you're possibly going to have loads of trouble with.

I bailed out once the thread went down hill.


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Well I am going to be a mean person as well. Green tree snakes and keelbacks are not very good choices as first snakes. Both can be difficult feeders if you are not careful and know what you are doing. They are also very fast and nervous snakes. If you don't know what you are doing you can easily loose them when they panic. Also they are not species that enjoy massive amounts of handling. Some will be fine with handling but most do not like it and stress out when they are handled constantly. Much higher maintenance species than what pythons are. Colubrids are a lot less commonly kept so they are much harder to find for sale.
If you don't want to feed rodents look into some of the lizard species that are around.
Cheers Cameron
 
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