V.indicus and V.indicus "blue phase"

[Illium]

pic no workey

 

[mangrove]

young cape doreanus, not my photo can't remember whose it is, if asked will remove immediately apologies in advance just in case
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edit: pic thingy not working too well, just click on the numbers. If that's not working for people let me know and will upload another way

 

[insitu]

not working for me bud

 

[mangrove]

here we go should work now, young cape doreanus.

 

[insitu]

Thats dannys picure from chilli beach i think

 

[mangrove]

ah yeah think it was, couldn't be certain though was sent to me a while ago... danny if you want me to take it down just let me know and it's gone, no worries

 

[insitu]

nice looking little critter

 

[Rogue5861]

here we go should work now, young cape doreanus.

Ill take 10 thanks
Looks like another amazing Varanus species, i havent seen those ones before.


Rick

 

[pinefamily]

I know nothing about V. indicus taxonomy. What I do know is that colour alone is not sufficient to warrant even sub-species division. There are only a few genes involved and they have multiple alleles which result in different colours. For example, the Common Tree Snake has several colour phases - grass green, blackish blue, sky blue, black, golden. There are a few other variations on those. Yet they are considered th one species and not different sub-species.

Where a colour or pattern difference is accompanied by genetically seperate traits to the rest of the population, then subspecies status may well be warranted. Sorry I cannot help you beyond these general comments.

Blue

Another case in point is the Gammon Ranges python, distinct by colour and geographical location, yet not recognised as a separate subspecies.

 

[geckodan]

Yes, that's my image. It has been verified by a number of individuals with extensive doreanus experience as being a juvenile of that species. Two other juveniles have been seen as well as at least three adults photographed (but try as I may I could not locate a copy of or the owner of the Lockhart river image ).

 

[mangrove]

now just while we're on the subject of v indicus taxonomy, would anyone care to elaborate on the possible presence of v finschi on the mainland or torres strait islands?

 

[geckodan]

now just while we're on the subject of v indicus taxonomy, would anyone care to elaborate on the possible presence of v finschi on the mainland or torres strait islands?

That one has be long declared as an erroneous sample and entry and the sample has long since been lost.

 

[mangrove]

thanks for clearing that up Danny

 

[CrazyNut]

Ok this is the photo I tried posting before but it didn't work. I hope it works this time... As far as I know this is def not Dreanus.

 

[geckodan]

Wild or captive? That's a blue morph indicus.

 

[insitu]

its not wild either

 

[CrazyNut]

Apparently it is wild, I would link to the site but its against forum rules but here is another photo and unless this was a stage then it is def wild.

 

[insitu]

hahahaha

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you dont need to link me to the site i know the animal

 

[CrazyNut]

Oh ok so not wild lol I'm curious though, are there natural occurring specimens such as this?

 

[insitu]

as far as i know not in aus, but danny seems to think so, so i could be wrong