S.A Permits how do i respond to this email??

[jeramie85]

hiya

Well I have a Coastal Carpet Python I live in S.A and dont have a reptile license or permit as i was told i dont need one as i can have 1 without a license

now my problem here is that my step dad found out i had a python so straight away he sends me this email

"A REPTILE IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ANIMAL (FAUNA) REPTILES ARE COVERED UNDER THE DEPARTMENT FOR ENVIRONMENT AND HERITAGE EVEN THOUGH THE SOUTH AUSTRALIAN PARKS AND WILD LIFE ACT DOES NOT REQUIRE A PERMIT THE FEDERAL ACT DOES WHICH WHEN A CONFLICT IS EVIDENT BETWEEN STATE AND FEDERAL ACTS THE FEDERAL ACT IS CONSIDERED TOO BE CORRECT

3.5 All reptiles are protected in South Australia and cannot be taken from the wild
without an appropriate permit. A person requires a permit under section 58 of the
National Parks and Wildlife Act 1972 to keep a reptile. The keeping of the

majority of venomous snakes requires a person to hold a Specialist Permit. (refer
to the Standard Operating Procedure ‘Keeping Venomous Snakes’ issued by the
Department for Environment and Heritage)."


now i have no idea on acts and things really of legal origin so im just wondering is he right??

if not what can i send back to counteract his statement to me prefably an act of some sort as my step dad is very thorough

thanks for any help i will get for this

 

[NinaPeas]

Ring the NPWS straight away, and say you have a snake, but no licence, you might get charged the past year or 2 as well as the next year, but if you are friendly about it, and helpful, they will help you.

I just had to do this recently, so if you want more info, PM me

 

[NinaPeas]

Are you just trying to prove to your dad that he is wrong???

I would just ring them and ask what you can do to make it all legal.

 

[jeramie85]

ive spent hours going through there rules and i had called them and they said i can have 1 reptile without a license but then with what dad said they said he is right so it is all contradictory

and yes i want to prove him wrong for a change

 

[Magpie]

3.5 All reptiles are protected in South Australia and cannot be taken from the wild
without an appropriate permit. A person requires a permit under section 58 of the
National Parks and Wildlife Act 1972 to keep a reptile. The keeping of the

majority of venomous snakes requires a person to hold a Specialist Permit. (refer
to the Standard Operating Procedure ‘Keeping Venomous Snakes’ issued by the
Department for Environment and Heritage)."

I would suggest that the 1972 legislation has probably been updated.
Try and check it out, I know the SA system does allow the keeping of one common reptile without licence, but i did think that it had to be native to the state?

 

[peterescue]

BUMPH!. thats what its called.
Can you keep a coastal python in SA without a license under the laws of that State. Yes.
Does it contravene a federal Law? News to me. Would need to see the relevant act. Whats his point anyway. Ars,e-hole of the Year isnt held to New year.

 

[Fuscus]

read this http://www.parks.sa.gov.au/fauna_permits/information/index.htm#basic

 

[shiner]

Here you go mate

http://www.parks.sa.gov.au/fauna_permits/introduction/index.htm#overview


The Permit System - Overview

Most native animals in South Australia are protected and cannot be taken from the wild without an appropriate permit.

The National Parks and Wildlife Act 1972 provides for a permit system to keep native animals (including mammals, birds and reptiles) in captivity. The Permit System provides a framework that identifies legally acquired native animals and allows the detection of those animals that have been illegally acquired and brought into captivity.

The keeping and trading in native animals has the potential to impact on wild populations unless there are systems in place to ensure accountability for the legal possession of animals and the manner in which they are managed.

The Department for Environment and Heritage promotes fair and reasonable access to wildlife within parameters which address the conservation status of species, proper accountability for possession and appropriate standards of husbandry.

South Australia promotes the concept of private people being able to keep any species of native animal as long as the animal is legally acquired and the person has sufficient experience and knowledge and appropriate facilities to keep the animal. There is no prohibited list of animals in South Australia.

The Permit System to keep and sell native fauna has been in operation since the National Parks and Wildlife Act 1972 was assented to on 3 July 1972.

The Department for Environment and Heritage administers this permit system.

The Permit System is regularly reviewed and revised to keep it relevant to changes in community attitudes. The permit system underwent a major change in 1989, with the introduction of a five-tiered approach that also included provisions for fauna dealers. In 1999, the permit system was again reviewed and a four-tiered system was adopted.

Native animals are classed into one of the following

Unprotected Species - These animals are not protected in the wild. A permit to keep or sell these animals is not required.

ExemptSpecies - These animals are fully protected in the wild. A permit to keep or sell these animals is not required.

Basic - These animals are fully protected in the wild. These animals are usually easy to keep in captivity. A permit to keep and sell these animals is required. A permit is not required to keep 1 individual, however the sale or disposal of that individual animal would require a permit.

Specialist - These animals are fully protected in the wild. A permit to keep and sell is required. These animals are not generally kept in captivity. They are considered to be of high status as a result of illegal trading or demand from trade, and/or animals which require special feeding or housing, and/or animals which are endangered in their natural environment and/or animals which require special expertise for handling and security.

 

[jeramie85]

thanks all for that help

peterescue well yes you can take it as him being an ass hol he can be but also he is extremely thorough why do you think ive been living out of home since i was 16
in a way i wish i was his son though and inherited his photographic memory and his knowledge on everything

but eh


well thanks all

 

[MannyM]

Thorough for the purposes of trying to put you down it seems.

anyway, he's your stepfather, so here's the best way to go about responding to his e-mail:

"You're not my real father! You can't tell me anything! I don't even live with you anymore! You have no jurisdiction over me! Why don't you go and shove your false facts up yer" ... aaaand you get the drift

 

[Wrasse]

Or perhaps the stepdad is simply concerned that Jeramie85 might get caught and fined for having, what he thinks, is an illegal pet, and there is no sign there, in the quoted text of the email, that the stepdad is being nasty about this. Simply quoted regs and rules. Perhaps the stepdad simply has Jeramie85's welfare at heart ?

Jeramie85 can now respond appropriately and the stepdad will settle, knowing he won't have to support and calm Jeramie's mum down when Jeramie gets dragged off to court.

Or I could be wrong. :?

 

[jeramie85]

Or perhaps the stepdad is simply concerned that Jeramie85 might get caught and fined for having, what he thinks, is an illegal pet, and there is no sign there, in the quoted text of the email, that the stepdad is being nasty about this. Simply quoted regs and rules. Perhaps the stepdad simply has Jeramie85's welfare at heart ?

Jeramie85 can now respond appropriately and the stepdad will settle, knowing he won't have to support and calm Jeramie's mum down when Jeramie gets dragged off to court.

Or I could be wrong. :?

yes your about right Wrasse he is concerned but i have applied for a license now just to cover my ass

so if all goes well tuesday or wednesday ill have it so he doesnt have to worry

thanks all