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:lol: Yeah, not really street legal, it won the British Superbike Championship in 1989. 0-100, mmm, I reckon pretty damn fast.

jessop said:
nice bike boa! must be a real hoot tearing along at 330kph, forget the cops, they ain't gonna catch ya! whats it do 0-100kph in? and a quarter mile time would be nice too :D
 
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Don't they both use Chevy engines ?

Rossagon said:
The only thing Holden or Ford in the V8 Supercars nowadays is the shell. Give me an old HG, HK, HT Monaro anyday, and I'll be as happy as a pig in poo!!!!

Cheers Rossco.
 
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boa said:
Don't they both use Chevy engines ?

Rossagon said:
The only thing Holden or Ford in the V8 Supercars nowadays is the shell. Give me an old HG, HK, HT Monaro anyday, and I'll be as happy as a pig in poo!!!!

Cheers Rossco.

Yeah, maybe the block, but each team builds they're own engines. So most of the engine specs have to pass scrutineering, but they all have the heads flowing differently and so on.
 
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F1 is the real motor sport. The problem with V8 supercars is that fact you can buy road cars that are faster than them.

I am a Holden man though.
 
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Well I have a Ford Courier which is actually a Mazda and built in Thailand, does that count ? :lol:
 
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They did not "ban them all" they merely banned turbos and superchargers. It was only a matter of time before someone stuck a nasty big supercharger on one of the v8's and things got silly.
There is nothing to stop any other manufacturer racing a v8 in the series.

PS, I have a 2002 Courier XLT.
 
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So why did they continue to allow ford sierra turbo's & nissan skyline turbo's to race yet mazda RX7 (who held the championship title) were not allowed to compete? The turbo's were not a problem when on 2 litres like the TRX bluebird etc. The problem was a measly 1.3 litre x 2 (2.6litre) 13B rotary was decimating the field & those 5 litre bogans couldn't have a smaller cubed engine blowing them silly.

So they told Mazda to compete in the 2 - 3 litre sports sedan class where they now kill every car in their class & are only really competing against themselves. What fun is it racing 2 litres datsuns & 2 litre escorts when you have the power to BEAT 5 litre supercars?

At the time turbo's were still accepted but rotaries were not.
 
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Go ford beecause thats my last name. props??
 
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V8 Super cars use chevy's in the holdens and Windsors in the fords, i'm not 100% sure but i think they are a control block so they can't make their own. Heads are a different matter they just have a couple of specs to stick to and they're away.

J&C you would be really suprised how fast some of the 2L race cars really do go. I race in improved production in the NT, in this class it is not unusual for naturally aspirated four bangers to carve up the vast majority of the mazdas, turbo 4's and some of the v8's.
 
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im a holden man but i have to agree with the boys nothing better than a rota there very fast cars gotta love the rx4...and the rx7 series 6
 
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A naturally aspirated 4 cylinder would have no chance of competing against a rotary either naturally aspirated or inducted. A naturally aspirated peripheral port 13B pumps out 300+HP. A turbo 13B pumps out anything from 250 - 800HP.

What naturally aspirated 4 cylinder competes with those figures?
Even the best built VTECH honda with a full custom re-build (high comp flat top pistons, cam, valves, headwork etc) would be hard pushed to crack 300BHP.
 
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in this class it is not unusual for naturally aspirated four bangers to carve up the vast majority of the mazdas, turbo 4's and some of the v8's.

Lotus?
 
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datson for me all the way!! my fisrt car was a datson 1000 ute with a 2 litre stage 3 cam, bored out (cant remember how much) , celica 5 speed, locked 120y diff. sat 55mm off ground
 
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cant beat a toyota for reliability and resale value
 
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but i would have to say holden over found on rubbish dump [ford]
 
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J&C it is not all about power!!! I'll go find some time sheets for you. The rotaries do hold most of the track records in the class i race in (IP) but there are some huge HP N/A escorts datsuns etc. And turbo cars in IP have to run a restrictor effectively limiting them to 350hp and just not worth the hassel in the rotors.
 
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But you are argueing with yourself with those results, both show a Rotary as the winner. The fact that a 4 cylinder was ahead of other rotaries and V8's just means the 4 cylinder pilot was a better driver.

waruikazi said:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?02/10/2005.HIDV.R07
This one shows an N/A escort about fourth outright

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?28/05/2006.HIDV.R06
And this one an NA 929 third outright

Both have rotors and V8's behind them.
 
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