albino carpet price drop

[Waterrat]

Nothing stirs the possum more than a thread about money in the reptile hobby. Here we go, 7 pages about nothing really, just arguments and the occasional insult. Lets keep amusing the audience, i.e. those 2008 watching this thread. It's like pornography.

 

[mungus]

Watching Discovery Channel is better............lol

 

[ad]

:lol: have you seen the price greens are going to be this season?

 

[caustichumor]

If you want to make pre-2007 albino Darwin money these days, you might want to sell up and buy some Jags, or Wait until Zebra/Granite Morelia morphs or Albino Blackheads magically appear in Australian classifieds. Anyway the most dramatic drop in recent years would have to have been Rough scaled pythons. What where RSP's selling for a couple of years ago $15000 each? and now you can pick up a pair for $1500. Albino macs will go through the same price drop (and 15 years down the track there will be threads about how the bottom is falling out of that market), however seeing as Antaresia clutches are not as large as Morelia, they might hold their value for longer.

 

[Mr.James]

It's like pornography.

Good porn cost money to watch, so glad this is free!

 

[-Matt-]

Whinging, arrogance and egos are all terrible things that seem to go hand in hand with the reptile hobby...this thread has seen all of them.

 

[troycoop]

It can be solved easy don't breed them. If you say your not in it for the money then you dont need to breed them. I payed $5000 1.5 years ago and now there going for $1500 but thats the risk of buying a (PET)
Troy

 

[syeph8]

Whinging, arrogance and egos are all terrible things that seem to go hand in hand with the reptile hobby...this thread has seen all of them.

what category do i fall under if not all three?

 

[aussie-albino]

all just my opinion, you get what you pay for guys.

cheers
Scott

 

[Waterrat]

all just my opinion, you get what you pay for guys.

cheers
Scott

That's a sweeping statement Scott, did I pay to get Julia Gillard?

 

[J-A-X]

Whinging, arrogance and egos are all terrible things that seem to go hand in hand with the reptile hobby...this thread has seen all of them.

and you have made many posts on this thread, so which category do you put yourself into ??

as far as this thread goes, prices will bottom out of any 'new product' regardless of whether it is a reptile, a car or the 2 metre plasma TV you had to have, the fact that some people are complaining that they are no longer going to make huge profits just reinforces to me that they are in it for the wrong reason,

 

[-Matt-]

Who said anything about categories? They are just aspects that rear their ugly heads all too often.

 

[aussie-albino]

sorry about that one waterrat. Just on holidays at the moment some thing to do for a change I guess. I'd be interested to know what category I'm in. I bred snakes when they were worth nothing and continue to breed snakes that are of little monetary value, coastals, macs, stimmies. I have given a few away this year to people I believed wanted them enough. I am just saying what I think.

cheers
Scott

 

[aussie-albino]

what I make from my reptiles goes back into my reptiles people who know me know that, and a lot of the money I make from full time work also goes into my reptiles, I think that makes me a hobbyist.

cheers
Scott

 

[J-A-X]

Who said anything about categories? They are just aspects that rear their ugly heads all too often.

Well Scotty all I can say is good luck to you mate, and if you'll be getting $2000 a snake this season than you are doing much better than most. On the comment about me being lucky to get quality animals for cheap because they 'needed' to be moved on....they didn't 'need' to be moved on at all, it's just nice to have mates in the hobby that aren't out there to scrape every dollar out of you.

the funny thing is i happen to agree with most of what you post, here and on other threads, but the last part of your post above , sounded very arrogant to me, and then you posted
"Whinging, arrogance and egos are all terrible things that seem to go hand in hand with the reptile hobby...this thread has seen all of them."

you made it sound like as if you think 95% of breeders are nothing more than rip off merchants !

Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, and some are willing to pay more than others, for various reasons, mostly for perceived quality and/or beauty, both of which are very individual to the person handing over the money,

 

[guzzo]

Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten............... I had to write something on this thread

 

[-Matt-]

Well I'm sorry that you interpreted it that way, I don't think that at all! I have met some fantastic people in this hobby and also some horrible people...the majority being great people! That statement that you highlighted in bold was in reference to an earlier post about cheap animals being inferior and me justifying why they were so cheap. If people can make good money out of this hobby than I say good on them! They are living the dream.

My next statement was just a general statement relating to the attitudes people have and have plagued this forum of late and this thread...that attitude of people thinking they are better than others and saying how threads are 'crap' and 'useless' but for some reason they still need to post an arrogant comment in there.
My opinion in this thread has been identical to what you have posted just with different wording.
I hope you understand where I am coming from?

 

[iamheretic]

Why do people say if you want to make money in the hobby you are in it for the wrong reasons?

Tell me what is wrong doing something you want to do and making money from it?

Selling snakes to people who want them, and (hopefully) appreciate their value?

Being respected as someone who breeds quality animals?

 

[syeph8]

Why do people say if you want to make money in the hobby you are in it for the wrong reasons?

Tell me what is wrong doing something you want to do and making money from it?

Selling snakes to people who want them, and (hopefully) appreciate their value.

Being respected as someone who breeds quality animals.

i think the argument is not that you should not hope to earn money from it or try to get out what you put in, but that you should be in the hobby because you want to be in the hobby, love the animals and the process and then money comes last to the appreciation of the animals. i personally dont know a single person who is in it for the wrong reason in this sense. all the people i know who sell reptiles put all money back into a declining market, knowing their investments will depreciate.

 

[iamheretic]

i think the argument is not that you should not hope to earn money from it or try to get out what you put in, but that you should be in the hobby because you want to be in the hobby, love the animals and the process and then money comes last to the appreciation of the animals. i personally dont know a single person who is in it for the wrong reason in this sense. all the people i know who sell reptiles put all money back into a declining market, knowing their investments will depreciate.

My brain isn't working very well today, so i don't know how to reply, without sounding stupid, but here it is anyways.

yes ok i accept this idea/statement it is good.

ill edit it tommorow so i don't sound stupid.