albino eastern water dragon

[cheyno]

I'd be surprised if they knew what an EWD looked like. If their so concerned because of it's value, which i believe they wouldnt have a clue about, wouldnt they be working with the tax department regarding all the people buying & selling expensive pythons and not paying tax on them? I know of half a dozen blokes making very good money off reptiles and not paying tax. It's on their books for all to see. As long as you send your annual fee to them they dont want to know whats going on.

You might be suprised mate. There are people on here, paying members, who actually work for NPWS, and know quite a lot about the herp trade, and what is going on. Just be careful what you say.

 

[BIG RYANO]

I dont give a rats what anyone from NPWS hears me say. I'm the least of their problems. Their like everyone else, it's just a job, and they just want to get paid and go home like everyone else. Private reptile keepers should be the last of their concerns.

 

[Sanchez]

I dont give a rats what anyone from NPWS hears me say. I'm the least of their problems. Their like everyone else, it's just a job, and they just want to get paid and go home like everyone else. Private reptile keepers should be the last of their concerns.

Settle down:x

 

[BIG RYANO]

Settle down:x

Meow

 

[cheyno]

Settle down:x

I agree.

 

[BIG RYANO]

I'm quite settled. As usual on this site, as soon as someone gives an honest opinion that goes against the grain, a bunch of people start freaking out. You blokes should settle down.

 

[cheyno]

I'd like to see all these people who say it's wrong knock back something offered to them for free if they were told it was collected from the bush. Not likely....

Collecting from the wild, whether illegally or legally, is like a drop in the ocean. Apart from a very few specialised species like broadheads, collecting by private keepers has no effect on the majority of species what so ever.

Firstly, I would never take anything offered to me, no matter what it was, if it had been illegally collected from the wild.

Secondly, your point about collecting being a drop in the ocean, if every keeper in NSW was to go out and start collecting what ever they wanted from the wild, soon there would be very few wild specimens left. Hardly a drop in the ocean.

And the bit about colecting by private keepers having no effect on the majority of species what so ever. Why don't you come out and see the damage that the (not allowed to use appropriate word) collecting geckos have done in some of the national parks around sydney. Huge areas where every possible hide has been turned over and or smashed apart so that these idiots can get a few geckos and make a few dollars. And most of the time, this is destroying prime habitat for other species such as broad-headed snakes which are reliant upon these hides and the geckos as a food source.

Wake up to yourself mate.

 

[BIG RYANO]

I disagree Cheyno. If every private keeper went bush and collected some reptiles to keep you wouldnt even know the difference. And that would never happen even if it was legal to do so. Too many of todays keepers are scared to leave the big smoke. The damage you talk about is usually done by blokes looking for broadheads that also take geckoes for snake food and to sell to other keepers. Plus juvenile vandals that have nothing to do with reptiles also cause damage. I did actually say that certain species such as broadheads are affected. BUT, the vast majority of species would not be troubled at all.

 

[chickenman]

but then again ryano if people were aloud to go and collect reptiles from the bush it would make it much more easyer to get reptiles hence there would be more people keeping reptiles so then more reptiles will go..

 

[BIG RYANO]

Firstly, I would never take anything offered to me, no matter what it was, if it had been illegally collected from the wild.

Your a good man Cheyno. Salt of the earth. FOS. You wouldnt own a reptile if people hadnt illegally taken them from the wild originally. Wakeup son.

 

[Colin]

A lot of people think they can fool the ATO. Good luck to them, that's all I will say

The ATO you could fool most of the public servants that work there with three walnut shells and a pea MissB :lol:

 

[Hetty]

Miss B, what do you mean by 'fool the ATO'?

I thought there was no tax on reptiles.

 

[Miss B]

I meant the ATO as a whole.

Some of them are a bit daft, yes, but you get that anywhere. Which dep't of the ATO do you usually deal with? My man was working in Campaigns, but has recently transferred to Insolvency.

 

[bump73]

Sorry to jump into this one but it's kind of related in a way... How do you go about getting a licence to collect animals from the wild?
I see alot of people claiming to have animals that are LEGALLY taken from the wild and was wondering who's doing the collecting?
I think it would be a bit unfair if the only people allowed to do this are commercial sellers as they would truely taking them for a profit, which in my book is worse than someone taking for their own collection...
I'm probably totally wrong in this but i really have no idea as to how this licensing works..
Ben

 

[Rennie]

Sorry to jump into this one but it's kind of related in a way... How do you go about getting a licence to collect animals from the wild?
I see alot of people claiming to have animals that are LEGALLY taken from the wild and was wondering who's doing the collecting?
I think it would be a bit unfair if the only people allowed to do this are commercial sellers as they would truely taking them for a profit, which in my book is worse than someone taking for their own collection...
I'm probably totally wrong in this but i really have no idea as to how this licensing works..
Ben

In this state, basically only rescuers (WIRES, etc.) can I think, in WA and NT it is easier to get a takers permit.

 

[Sanchez]

Your a good man Cheyno. Salt of the earth. FOS. You wouldnt own a reptile if people hadnt illegally taken them from the wild originally. Wakeup son.

Shows just how smart you are. Back when most of these were taken from the wild there was no laws regarding collection of reptiles. So how was this illegal?

 

[BIG RYANO]

Shows just how smart you are. Back when most of these were taken from the wild there was no laws regarding collection of reptiles. So how was this illegal?

Are you sure about that Einstein? You blokes crack me up. I suppose you's all believe in Santa,god and the Tooth Fairy. You've been in the game 5 minutes and cant be told anything.

 

[Colin]

I meant the ATO as a whole.
Some of them are a bit daft, yes, but you get that anywhere. Which dep't of the ATO do you usually deal with? My man was working in Campaigns, but has recently transferred to Insolvency.

I mainly deal with Taxation and Practice Management sections, Tax Law and advice sections, Practice Management etc etc etc
The so called 'think tank' they had a few years back which was supposed to be like an ATO version of power rangers comprising their smartest and most knowlegable minds. they took 3-4 days to answer each question we asked and even then they never knew the answer
But there are some nice and helpful people working there and overall its ok I guess

 

[Sanchez]

Are you sure about that Einstein? You blokes crack me up. I suppose you's all believe in Santa,god and the Tooth Fairy. You've been in the game 5 minutes and cant be told anything.

You know bugger all about me mate.

 

[bump73]

OK everyone to their corner

Right... Now big group hug

AAHH that's better is'nt it:lol::lol: