Alternative Reptile Care

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  1. feathergrass

    feathergrass Active Member

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    i had 46 stitches on from ankle to knee on the inside of my leg the vitamin e cream turned it from a nasty as looking thing to a i can look at it and not want to be sick scar also help scarring on my mums foot after her op to not become hard and stiff and made it heal bettter an retain flexibility
     
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    longqi Very Well-Known Member

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    baytril saved your snake
    A few scars is better than a dead slitherer
     
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    Another great read first retained eye caps this morning now this, thanks Longqi and the others who have contributed very useful info.
     
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    I have had numerous doctors and even scar removal clinics tell me that it helps encourage the healing of scars.
    If what you say is true can you please show me some evidence that supports what you say?

    If you managed to give your Woma scars from injecting it then I fail to see how the Baytril had anything to do with it, needles cause damage regardless of what they are injecting.
    Im sure any damage a the tiny needle may have caused will heal very quickly, Iv had to regularly inject juvenile beardies and you could not see any marks after they shed
     
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    On my phone at the moment. I'll dig up some studies when in front of a computer. Basically Vitamin E can retard the healing of scar tissue and cause dermatitis.It's a bit silly using anecdotal evidence and saying ' but it healed my scar real good'. Double blind studies show otherwise.

     
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    Well that gives me something to think about next time I hit the pavement at high speeds, thanks Syner
     
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    For those of us that rescue and care for reptiles, you occasionally get one that is past help and in excruciating pain.
    I am not trying to provoke anybody here,and i realize that doing the act of euthing by hammer is probably making the cup of tea too strong for a lot of people that frequent this site.
    Its a sad moment for me too, and the absolute worst part of this type of work, but it is quick and extremely effective for releasing a dying animal from earthly pain.
     
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    Thank you so much for this thread.
    There is some amazing information here.
    I never thought that power aid could be so versatile.
     
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    I agree with cement about putting a snake out of its misery. Nothing worse than watching an animal suffer.
     
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    Great thread, lots of good advice. :D
     
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    can you use this on reptiles?
     
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    Just had a VERY interesting talk with a breeder in Jakarta today

    He had 6 IJ Carpet hatchies that would not feed for over 3 months
    He is a great bloke and had tried everything including braining etc etc

    His answer was try something he heard of but never done

    Mixed plain yoghurt with chicken flavoured baby food and syringed a gobful down the throat
    3 days later 5/6 took pinkies

    Theory behind it is simple
    Some hatchies dont absorb all the egg yolk
    Maybe they miss out on some enzymes/bacteria?? that promote feeding
    Yoghurt promotes enzymes/bacteria?? in the gut and so they feed

    Would probably also work on adult snakes after egg laying if they are in poor nick

    Any comments on this are very welcome as it would be a lot less stressful on hatchies than force feeding???
     
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    Very interesting thanks for posting this and all your other top tips.


    Kindest regards

    Endeavour
     
  15. longqi

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    If anyone out there knows a vet please get them to drop us a line
    balireptilerescue@yahoo.com

    For minor infections burns and cuts etc we do ok here with our remedies
    But if the infection is bad we are losing too many in my opinion
    We dont have the luxury of free treatment for native animals that you have in Aus
    So I have to euthanise reptiles too often that I know we could have saved

    There are various triple antibiotics etc out there that can help us such as neosporin/equate florazine silverzine Baytril [enrofloxacin] Piperacil (piperacillin), and Amikacin (amiglyde sulfate) etc etc etc
    Most are not available in Indonesia or are horrendously expensive but can work well on bad infections

    In Aus these all have a use by date and after that have to be dumped
    If any is due to be dumped soon we would love it to get dumped in our direction

    example
    We have a 3metre retic that came in with a golf ball sized ball of pus and yuck on the back above the vent
    I o
    pened it and removed as much as I could before treating it by washing it out
    Ive had to go back 3 times now to do the same thing and if I am honest I think its possibly getting worse because we cannot kill the infection itself
     
  16. -Peter

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    I have been using a vetinairy probiotic for many years now, its been useful on all types of reptiles Ive had in care and recalcitrant young non feeders.


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    Ive always wondered about theis. The makers of Baytril recommend it begiven orally, not by injection.

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    This is an excellent thread. It's been suggested that we make it a sticky and I agree.
    Thanks to everyone involved.
     
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    Crushed Cuttlefish bone is just Calcium carbonate powder - I fail to see what major role it has in treating bacterial stomatitis (if thats what you were referring to) other than bone repair.
    Bactrim and Baytril are most definately not the same thing - not even the same class of antibiotics.
    Higher doses are not required at subsequent treatments. The recommended dose is based on the dose required to achieve therapeutic levels.
     
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    I second it, the info shared is brilliant.
     
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    Great thread guys, :) cheers for all the info.
     
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