America civilized

[JasonL]

Although I don't see the need to feed a live snake to the Kingy, I'm sure plenty of people have fed or at least tried to feed a live pinky to a troublesome python hatchy or a Bearded Dragon ect.... at the end of the day the pinky being eaten by the python will suffer more than the snake being eaten by the Cobra....

 

[JasonL]

King Cobras will only eat other snakes species ? so thats why it is being fed a albino boa ?
The cages are only temporary display cages , about the size of a hide box for a python that size? LOL
its not cruel to have any reptile confined temporarily ?

They will eat dead snakes, or rats scented with road kill snakes...

 

[Retic]

Do you honestly believe that ?

Public opinion in australia would not let this happen either the cramped caging or the live feeding.
they would also be shut down by the RSPCA and charged in a criminal court so generalize all you like about australia at least we have laws against it.

 

[reptilefan95]

I doubt that Australia will be completely different from American herp keepers in the next few years but it is a shock to see this, even though it is only temporary and its pretty much the same as putting a hatchy in a chinese takeaway container to take home after a reptile show it is still pretty confronting

 

[Serpentes]

.... at the end of the day the pinky being eaten by the python will suffer more than the snake being eaten by the Cobra....

True that. Ever watched a Burtons eat a skink, a common tree snake eat a frog or a monitor eating a black-headed python? Indeed, not a pleasant ending for the poor prey item, but one that sustains the lives of those reptiles which we adore.

Since I am not a huge fan of albino snakes, I consider the boa a well utilised resource. Although I'd get all confused if it was fed to an albino king cobra. I may have to elicit the same "specie-ist" emotional reactions found elsewhere in this thread.

Does anyone else think that medium-sized freezer bags would be good for snake displays? A spray of water and the odd hole- voila! You could then hang them up out of the way, and it would be heaps cheaper than those plexiglass jobbies.

EDIT: In SE Asia I used to feed my king cobras on rats scented with snake sloughs. Easy-peasy.

 

[waruikazi]

Lol i can picture a rat sausage in a snake skin!

 

[Kersten]

they would also be shut down by the RSPCA and charged in a criminal court so generalize all you like about australia at least we have laws against it.

Pretty to think so. However, there are pet stores and private owners operating in conditions far worse than that, and they never get taken to court, even after inspections. At most they'd get a warning, if the RSPCA/Parks officers even thought there was a problem.

 

[Jumala]

this photo was taken in a reptile specialist shop in the USA a couple of weeks ago. The largest containers are the size of chinese takeaway dishes, 6 3/4 inches x 2 inches high, 38 oz in volume. This is not a temporary set up. This is how the animals are kept until they are sold. There are a variety of species in the containers, all are hatchlings.

 

[Cj3cooper]

prices are cheap :lol::lol::lol:

coops

 

[waruikazi]

this photo was taken in a reptile specialist shop in the USA a couple of weeks ago. The largest containers are the size of chinese takeaway dishes, 6 3/4 inches x 2 inches high, 38 oz in volume. This is not a temporary set up. This is how the animals are kept until they are sold. There are a variety of species in the containers, all are hatchlings.

Well that does it! I declare war on America!

Hangon... I've kept hatchies in those conditions. Stuff it, string up all the Americans, thase bastads!

 

[reptilefan95]

Jumala that is exactly what we do in Australian reptile conventions, we keep small hatchy snakes in chinese takeaway containers (probably smaller than that) untill they are sold to some one who drives the snake home and puts it into a click clack which when you think of it isnt really that much bigger than a chinese takeaway box

 

[solar 17]

This thread sucks

I personally think this thread sucks [totally] l fail to see how highlighting the dark side of a hobby in another country does anything for our hobby in this country, sure it happens in the wild but it doesn,t have to be featured on a site like this, just imagine some young person logging onto this site with their parents looking over their shoulder what would they think....yep what a great promotion....just what we need ...NOT....cheers solar 17 (Baden)

 

[Frozenmouse]

Do you honestly believe that ?

So you dont think there would be some legal issues if someone did a live feeding display at an open to public reptile show in australia.

 

[elapid66]

nothing wrong with live feeding to many dogooders around here

 

[reptilefan95]

Elapid i think the main reason that live feeding is banned because its inhumane and mostly because a large rat or mouse could do quite a bit of damage to a snake so its just safer, plus live mice and rats could probably be more likely to carry diseases

 

[ryanharvey1993]

before people have a whinge about live, who here has never fed live?, whether it be a pinkie to a beardie or a troublesome hatchling snake

 

[Mudimans]

before people have a whinge about live, who here has never fed live?, whether it be a pinkie to a beardie or a troublesome hatchling snake

True, but only as a last resort and never as entertainment. I suppose who feeds live so their mates can watch would be a more accurate question.

 

[elapid66]

live feeding is banned because of dogooders if you leave a live rat in with a snake over night thats when you get problems but its ok to feed live fish thou

 

[Mudimans]

Its illegal because it is totally unnecessary. Does the snake get any benefit from taking on a live rat. I think the risk of injury to the snake is way to high to even think of it. How are you going to stop the rat biting the snake when it grabs it, the snake could be left without an eye in a heartbeat.

I agree sometimes it has to be used as a last resort but i doubt very much that a pinkie rat could do any damage to a hatchie

 

[reptilefan95]

Its illegal because it is totally unnecessary. Does the snake get any benefit from taking on a live rat. I think the risk of injury to the snake is way to high to even think of it. How are you going to stop the rat biting the snake when it grabs it, the snake could be left without an eye in a heartbeat.

I agree sometimes it has to be used as a last resort but i doubt very much that a pinkie rat could do any damage to a hatchie

True that, i agree it should only be used if the circumstances require so not to fufill someones sick mind