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Hey there fellow melbournites!
I'm looking mainly in afro's direction but any help would be fantastic.
I am looking at getting a large aquarium, probably around 7-8ft long x 3 x 3 foot. Now I have no idea price wise, so would this be ridiculously expensive and difficult? More so than an enclosure made of timber? It would be used for an aquatic reptilian :wink: .
Cheers, Simon
 
yes glass will be more build the cage you want frame in a pond and use pond liner to hold the water(you will have a pond and dirt area for growing plants this should make the animal happy depending of what it is)
 
hmmmm.
Maybe I'll just build a large enclosure and seal it, then have a large body of water with pump and heater.
Thanks Mystic, I'll keep pondering!
 
8x3x3? Have you won the Lotto??? Mate that would cost you both arms and legs! Would prob need to be custom made from at least 15mm and probably 20mm glass. You would probably get 20 same size melamine enclosures for the same price. Brand new you would be looking at at least a grand, probably two!
I have a tank here at the moment which is only 5 1/2 x 2 1/2 x 1 3/4 and to buy that new, (custom made), you are looking at a grand.
I'd say downsize you aquatic reptile and buy mine second hand, I'll do you mates rates :)
 
ya that is what i built for my water dragons a pond 27in long 25in wide and 7in deep ia 5.5ft long 4.5ft tall and 30in deep or wide
 
Indoors or outdoors sobby? My turtle enclosure will be coming up for sale soon. It's 8x6x6 has approx 800litre pond, 2000l/h pump and filter with U.V. sterilization. There are pics of the thing somewhere on this site I think unless they were lost in the Great Gallery Crash of 2004. Damn, for the right price I'll even throw in the turtles :)
 
lol, i thought it would cost a bunch but i had to ask, I literally had no idea. So melamine it is!
Sorry afro, you just conviced me that melamine was the go, you can't try to get me to buy your tank after scaring me away from it now can you! :p
Cheers for your help,
Sim
(indoors, but i would be interested in this so called "outdoor enclosure")
Gimme pickies and I'll get back you!
 
I have a contact who could build it for you. He built our frog enclosure. He was in Moorabin an specialises in large aquariums mainly for display in public buildings.

As others have said you will need to be independently wealthy. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I think the rule of thumb is every time you add 1mm to the thickness of the glass you double the price. IE: a pane of glass in 4mm will cost you double the same in 3mm. As you can see once you get to 20mm you start talking megabucks.

Another consideration is how you will get it installed. Such tank would have to be built on site and become part of the house because you will not be able to move it. Then there is the foundations on your house which will probably need to be upgraded to support the weight.
 
8x3x3? Have you won the Lotto??? Mate that would cost you both arms and legs! Would prob need to be custom made from at least 15mm and probably 20mm glass. You would probably get 20 same size melamine enclosures for the same price. Brand new you would be looking at at least a grand, probably two!
I have a tank here at the moment which is only 5 1/2 x 2 1/2 x 1 3/4 and to buy that new, (custom made), you are looking at a grand.
I'd say downsize you aquatic reptile and buy mine second hand, I'll do you mates rates

Since when is 1 or 2 grand a stupid amount of money? That's only one or two black headed pythons. The animals may be worth something comparable (I don't know what you're planning to put in it) and if you look after it, it will last decades (much, much longer than a damp melamine enclosure). You'd need more than that to buy one of my limbs... You'd possibly be looking at over $500 to build it out of something else anyway if you did it properly, so I say go with the way you want it :) I used to have a couple of 6ft aquariums, an 8 footer (8x3x2 I think it was, about $400 second hand, came with a bunch of stuff) and one that was 10 or 12 foot, although we never actually managed to get the long one inside, it sat on the front lawn until it was broken :lol: good thing it was only $50 or so (aquarium closing down sale thing). I sold them fully setup for fairly little (around $500 each, about what I paid, the actual tank being about half the price or a little more), the 10 or 12 footer went for free (broken) the 8x3x2 I think we sold for about $300 (just the tank). Keep your eye on the paper and you'll pick up a bargain sooner or later. Yes, this was a few years ago and inflation will have it higher now, but I can't imagine it being that bad. A friend of mine just bought a 6x3x3 glass tank for a crocodile, which was dirt cheap (under $200, although it was mates rates I think)

What kind of reptile is it for?

Anyway, I'd say it would definately be worth checking out the glass option for price if that's what you'd prefer to have. I don't think melamine would work with water on it, what will your setup be like?

Another consideration is how you will get it installed. Such tank would have to be built on site and become part of the house because you will not be able to move it. Then there is the foundations on your house which will probably need to be upgraded to support the weight.

Hehehe, you should have seen some of the stunts we pulled moving tanks :)
 
Well it is going to be for a Merten's water monitor. I have time to look around so if something comes up I'll grab it. I know you can keep them in timber but I was thinking about a display set up. Also I doesn't have to be 8ft, 6ft would probably be fine as it will have an outdoor enclosure to play in during summer. If nothing second hand comes up, I willl just make a melamine enclosure with a large permanent water container.
Cheers, Simon
 
Simon,
Wouldn't you think that 6ft would be a bit too small? These monitors can grow to over 4ft. 8ft x 3ft would probably be the minimum I'd suggest. I've only kept monitors since April this year, but in that time I've quickly realised they use every inch of that space regularly. I keep 2.5ft monitors individually in 6x2x2 enclosures and even that sometimes seems small for the amount of activity they're involved in. I'll be upgrading all to 8x3x2 enclosures as soon as I can actually build them.

I'd recommend getting in touch with Tim Mensforth at URS and ask him about some setup ideas, also see the URS Mertens enclosure pictures that are in my gallery.

Simon Archibald
 
I went to have a look at some aquariums today, 6x2x2 was going for $299. I could probably afford a 8x2x2 or an 8x3x2, but the size would be very akward.
Oh the joys of reptiles eh?

Simon,
Have you got any information on Varanus Mitchelli that you would be kind enough to share with me? I know you have been looking at getting some of them for a while now. Maybe they would be more suited to smaller conditions due to their size.
Thanks in advance, I will get on to Tim asap.
Simon
 
Simon,
6x2x2 would be adequate for the Mitchells. They tend to need the same care as most other monitors really...hot temps of around 50/55, cool temps around 25-28.

I have been keen to see if Mitchells have a trait all my EWD's share (and to a lesser extent Eastern beardies and blueys). I used to have a large pond style water bowl in my EWD enclosure and I rarely saw the lizards in it. I then bought a water feature with constantly running water and they used it a lot more...and still do. Similar happened when I put a water feature in my beardie/bluey enclosure...before they used it rarely, when it was running they use it regularly.

Where am I going with this? Well, of all the people who've commented on Mitchells husbandry, they all say they provided a basic size water bowl and the species does fine. Also, one person said to me they put in a large water bowl and it was still not used. On the other hand, the Mitchells down at Taronga Zoo was moving all over the enclosure, swimming and everything, and it had running water. I wonder if the running water would make a difference to this species?

Simon Archibald
 
That's a good theory Simon, I have noticed my gippies don't use there water bowl a whole lot. I recently bought a big bucket for them, and while they will use it from time to time, it's nothing like what I thought it would be. They are moving outside towards the end of this year or next spring and will be provided with running water. I will let you know what happends.
Thanks again for all your help, Simon.
 
If you are not using it for fish, that is not filling it with water, then just buy the glass and make your own in situ. You won't need half the thickness of glass as it is the water weight / pressure in fish tanks that governs the size of the glass.
 
Ahh, now i get you. I should have specified beforehand, sorry about that.
I don't have the know how to do it myself, so I will get one made up if all goes to plan.
Simon
 
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