Do you believe in macroevolution?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Surroundx, Feb 18, 2012.

?
  1. Yes

    94 vote(s)
    82.5%
  2. No

    18 vote(s)
    15.8%
  3. I'm not sure

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. redlittlejim

    redlittlejim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2011
    Messages:
    451
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    cairns

    Are you telling me that you can pick random animals that are similar out of the millions out there and it means they all evolved from the one or the other
     
  2. D3pro

    D3pro Very Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2009
    Messages:
    2,489
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Australia
    Does it matter who is right and who is wrong? Your all going to die the same way bahahahahahahaha
     
  3. CrystalMoon

    CrystalMoon Reptile Lover Subscriber

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2011
    Messages:
    2,395
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Where ever I lay my hat
    I was going to post my opinion here earlier today but decided not to as I am in awe of all the Brainiacs lol and figured I would just cum across as unedumacated..... Then me being me always I need to stick my 2 sense worth in lol.... I do believe in macro evolution(as much or as little as I know about it) to me it seems logical(mind you I am not one of the most logical of people lol) Ohhh please be gentle with me oh Brainiacs of the forum(I "likes" you all)
     
  4. Bluetongue1

    Bluetongue1 Guest

    There is nothing random about what was chosen. These are animals with a common evolutionary linage, such as mammals. Whether it is a mammal that walks upright or swings through he trees or is aquatic and swims or flies, the same basic bone structure is present in the limbs of each. Yet compare a whale or dolphin fin or a seal's flipper to a bony fish or shark fin - same use but entirely separate structure. If you were creating an aquatic animal, why give it the same internal limb structure as something that climbs tree or runs on all fours and totally different to all the other bony skeleton aquatic creatures. The common internal structures indicate a common lineage at some stage.

    Blue
     
  5. redlittlejim

    redlittlejim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2011
    Messages:
    451
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    cairns
    Or there just isnt millions of bone structures to fit millions of species so chances are some will match. then just pick the ones that do and say "WaLa Evolution"
     
  6. Klaery

    Klaery Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2010
    Messages:
    553
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Oh dear. What you say is far off base so I won't even address it..

    You do understand though that attempting to pick apart one theory means nothing for another theory. To be productive you need to provide evidence of said other theory.
     
  7. snakerelocation

    snakerelocation Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Logan Queensland

    and yes, the black is the new white, and fords are better than holdens, and also elapids are better than pythons.......
    go on, contradict just for the sake of it....... you seem to miss the important points, and typically focus on sumthing you can argue with. Grow up
     
  8. redlittlejim

    redlittlejim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2011
    Messages:
    451
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    cairns
    i like to think hybrids are going to be the next GREAT THING in evolution
     
  9. Australis

    Australis Almost Legendary

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2006
    Messages:
    5,468
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Central Coast NSW
    Feel free to clarify any important point i missed. Im sorry if pointing out the short comings of your hollow argument was hurtful ;)
     
  10. snakerelocation

    snakerelocation Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Logan Queensland
    the point that something so perfect as a child happens in only 40 weeks give or take, and that fact that evolution has to happen so slowly, if a fetus progressed at a speed of the evolution process, then it would be dead before it was even born.
    Dna evidence- we all know that its not 100% accurate.
     
  11. Klaery

    Klaery Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2010
    Messages:
    553
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Brisbane
    The dna evidence seems pretty accurate and conclusive to me and most anyone else that looks at it.

    Apart from that I wasn't quite sure what you were saying. Are you saying that evolution is so unbelievable that it cant be true? Apart from saying I don't agree that to be the case I will leave that there. But a question for you is don't the other options seem even less unbelievable?

    As a side Homo sapiens are far from perfect.
     
  12. Bluetongue1

    Bluetongue1 Guest

    We are talking 3 bones structures – that found in all Cartilaginous Fish (sharks and rays), that found in all Bony Fish and that found in Mammals. Aquatic mammals breath by lungs, not gills; they are endotherms, not ectotherms; they have a four chambered heart not two chambered; they have a sealed circulatory system, not an open system; they produce milk and suckle their young; they are covered with skin that has some hair, not slimy scales; the list does go on. Why do these aquatic animals have so much more in common with land based mammals than with other aquatic vertebrates?

    A theory is that which provides the best explanation of all the available facts. I am simply explaining why I believe in the theory of evolution.

    I am not actively trying to discredit the theory of creationism, but when you challenged the supporting evidence for evolution it left me with little choice but to highlight some illogical aspects of nature under that theory.

    Blue.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 22, 2012
  13. waruikazi

    waruikazi Legendary

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2006
    Messages:
    10,114
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Gunbalanya NT
    What about the retarded ones?
     
  14. snakerelocation

    snakerelocation Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Logan Queensland
    thank you waruikazi, i rest my case, as for evolution- everything has to have an alpha and omega.
     
  15. waruikazi

    waruikazi Legendary

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2006
    Messages:
    10,114
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Gunbalanya NT
    Hahaha, best come back evah!
     
  16. Wrightpython

    Wrightpython Suspended Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2011
    Messages:
    878
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    hawkesbury
    You wrote Homo lmfho
     
  17. JungleManSam

    JungleManSam Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2011
    Messages:
    232
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Aurstralia!
    Hot cross buns slightly warmed with a dollop of butter goes down a nice morning tea snack.
     
  18. Surroundx

    Surroundx Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Two Rocks, Western Australia, Australia
    It's not a simple question to answer because it's arbitrary. If all individuals of all "species" which had ever lived (and do live) on Earth were lined up next to each other then what we would see is a continuum of such slight gradations that making distinctions would be arbitrary.

    I can't speak for any scientist, let alone all of them. But from what I have read, at least a number of them consider macroevolution to simply be the temporal extrapolation of microevolution, though I suspect the percentage is quite high. And I agree.

    Evolution, at base, is simply any net change in the frequency of alleles. You are confusing the mechanisms which cause the net change, with evolution.

    Biological evolution is much more than the production of new species. If it isn't, then what is the production of subspecies and races? Speciation is only a small part of Darwinian evolution, Blue.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2012
  19. miss_mosher

    miss_mosher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2012
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Darling Downs
    Has to chic chip hot cross buns though *drools*
     
  20. Jamesss

    Jamesss Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2012
    Messages:
    126
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Victoria
    ...WOW! are you legitimately that dumb, or are you just trolling? I reeeeeally hope this is a troll, but I'll act like it isn't.
    How can you try to draw a comparison between pregnancy/formation of a person...and evolution? How does that even seem logical in your head?
    Evolution is the random mutations in each generation stacking on top of each other to form a large change over a long period of time...pregnancy is the creation of ONE generation...herpa derpa derp.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page