Well for what it's worth i'm sorry. Saw all the little guys, all the happy new owners and got a bit jealous. leave me off the list though. Next year if i am looking for some ill see what i can do. Upon re reading what i wrote i made myself look like a tool. All i can say in my defense was that it was obvious that you had replied to other peoples pm's, and it seemed (to me anyway) like i was being ignored. You do have great looking babies and adults, and i was quite looking forward to getting some. Must of been in a bad mood when i posted that. Anyway now that thats over good luck to all the new owners. Now i will have to really wait until december to get some victorian bred reds.