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Hey Black head, have you ever seen a U.milii with a regen tail? they are heart shaped, similar to N.levis, perhaps this is one of the reasons you didn't recognise it as U.milii
 
I don't think BlackHeaded92 is going to be bothered posting in this thread anymore (or possibly even this whole site). Can't say I blame her either.
Without pictures NO ONE can positively ID the spiecies of Gecko that she saw.
No need to be so negative towards her about it.

I'm not going to weigh in on this more so than I already have. But at the end of the day all creatures are continually evolving and adapting to new areas. We will never know one way or the other... Lets agree to disagree.
 
Thank you Blue and the others that have been nice, especially Benji and Tobe as well :)
Sorry to take over your thread cheekabee, at least you found some humour out of it :D
 
Sometimes around here Blackheaded92 you just have to shrug it off and let it be like water off a ducks back, admittedly in your case it was more like a torrential tropical downpour, and the duck was looking for a while like it was in danger of drowning, but you get the point.

There are plenty of armchair experts or otherwise here, it's hard to know who's who with the secretive veil of the internet and anonymity, but if you just cruise in every now and again like I do you don't get caught up in the usual keyboard warrior crossfire.

Good luck, and I wouldn't give up just yet on the place, it has its fair share of morons (like any internet site), but it is balanced out by some nice people :)
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Seems to me there were quite a few mistakes made in this thread by a range of posters. That was never the problem. The issues arose with those making assessments of others making statements that they considered were wrong. You cannot hammer people without expecting them to become defensive. I react that way myself. Ideally what should happen is that you post what you see as the facts, without making value judgments, whether explicit or implied, about others. Consequently, I would recommend that you forego the post mortem and simply be happy about taking away a little new found knowledge.

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I was saying most ppl were doing more the suggesting, as in having a go at her.
ooops my bad , happily corrected :) i must learn to fully read before posting and not skim read it
 
So much for coming on and looking at a few pages of herping pics... Seriously? 4 pages of pedantic rubbish?

Anyone else gone out with a camera yet this year? And well done to the OP! some good photos in there. My herping adventures often end as soon as I see a spider (usually before I see any herps). What area did you go herping in? As a fellow melbournite I rarely find anything other than the odd garden skink or copper head. I usually go around the jells park area or down the peninsula along the blairgowrie/sorrento backbeach
 
Don't let this species' ease in captivity fool you. They're a specialist species in the wild with a very niche, dependant on sandy soils in the arid zone. Yes, there is always the chance of getting range extensions and having animals pop up in random, unexpected places. But I can nearly guarantee that levis wouldn't turn up in coastal NSW due to their basic habitat requirements (evolution doesn't happen that quickly).

The only possibility as suggested would be escapees but if they were active during the day they would become lunch to a magpie in no time.

There are plenty of armchair experts or otherwise here, it's hard to know who's who with the secretive veil of the internet and anonymity
Indeed, I can think of a few recent examples of these experts mis-IDing herps on this forum include basics such as calling a YFW a brown snake, calling legless lizards snakes, calling reduce limbed skinks legless lizards. I should point out that these miss-IDs are at genus AND family levels not just a simple case of two similar looking species.

So yes, I don't doubt that you saw what you saw but I suspect your ID skills might be a bit lacking... Even if you posted a photo of a levis in your backyard I still wouldn't believe it wasn't staged. That's my opinion.

Don't let this species' ease in captivity fool you. They're a specialist species in the wild with a very niche, dependant on sandy soils in the arid zone. Yes, there is always the chance of getting range extensions and having animals pop up in random, unexpected places. But I can nearly guarantee that levis wouldn't turn up in coastal NSW due to their basic habitat requirements (evolution doesn't happen that quickly).

The only possibility as suggested would be escapees but if they were active during the day they would become lunch to a magpie in no time.

There are plenty of armchair experts or otherwise here, it's hard to know who's who with the secretive veil of the internet and anonymity
Indeed, I can think of a few recent examples of these experts mis-IDing herps on this forum include basics such as calling a YFW a brown snake, calling legless lizards snakes, calling reduce limbed skinks legless lizards. I should point out that these miss-IDs are at genus AND family levels not just a simple case of two similar looking species.

So yes, I don't doubt that you saw what you saw but I suspect your ID skills might be a bit lacking... Even if you posted a photo of a levis in your backyard I still wouldn't believe it wasn't staged. That's my opinion.

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So much for coming on and looking at a few pages of herping pics... Seriously? 4 pages of pedantic rubbish?
A forum is for discussion, problem?
Here's another Melb local for the people that bothered to get to the second page :lol:

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So much for coming on and looking at a few pages of herping pics... Seriously? 4 pages of pedantic rubbish?
and you just added to the pedantic rubbish and bought it back to the top of the forum , let it die people let it die it was almost there now its back at the top ;)
 
I've been seeing a couple of browns lately and I found this one dead, cut in half, any ideas how? BTW what orange snake? Your probably looking at the little whip snake.P1030122.jpgP1030123.jpg
 
Perhaps these geckos are escapees, or the descendants of escapees, or perhaps it's an isolated population no one had noticed until now. Maybe everyone has been mistaking them for other species without taking a closer look.
Moral of the story, don't get so worked up over semantics, distribution maps are ambiguous at best and horribly wrong at worst.
 
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