Discussion in 'Reptile News' started by Ramsayi, Mar 4, 2017.
I would say "informed" opinion Michael...
As I said in my post I don't agree with what he said. But for everyone to stoop to his level is not something I think is right. It is things like "His next crap", "You need to get out more" and "King of knobs" that I feel need to be left out of a mature discussion. The old saying that ' Two wrongs don't make a right' is very applicable here.
As for the old forum declining because of Facebook, I beg to differ.
I was a member on the old forum over ten years ago and saw quite a lot of this going on. So much so that I decided to stop visiting the forum. The ridiculous petty attacks on what people wrote, albeit ignorant posts, were nothing short if childish. I am not sure how many people that are members here now were members back then, but if they were I am sure they can attest to the goings on.
Jaguar(RPM), zebra and granite all came from over seas.
I've been around for ten years + too, and I acknowledge that a thick skin was a requirement in the early days, as it is sometimes required now. Facebook has definitely eaten into these forums big time - how many of the big breeders or well known keepers frequent these sites any more? Almost none, but their presence on Facebook is massive and constant, and their ability to maintain constant dialogue with others is greatly assisted by the format of Facebook. Many people are on Facebook almost 24/7.
I believe, for better or worse, that the opinionated conflicts generated on these forums in earlier times actually energised them and helped them maintain membership activity, not that I see that as a good thing generally.
As for my comment about "needing to get out more," it means what I meant it to mean - how about asking around before casting aspersions on someone's character, someone you may not have met, and certainly don't know very well.
Scutellatus, as a member from the "old" APS, I can say with confidence that the posts on here, while perhaps having a dig, are nowhere near as bad as those on the old threads. it got to a point where I wouldn't post, or ask a question, for fear of being burnt. There have only been one or two threads on the "new" APS that have engendered "active" discussion, and only one that required moderation. Funnily enough, one of the main offenders in that last thread was from the old days.
Oooh... was that me ?
I realise that they are nowhere near as bad, but if not nipped in the bud early the disease spreads. My only real reason for posting was to see the new forum not become the old forum. I do understand the frustration with people that post ill-informed and ridiculous statements. It is the way people deal with them that I think is the issue. A robust discussion is great, when people start ridiculing the poster it makes them no better than said poster. I never argue with idiots because they will bring you down to their level and win everytime. I do understand what you were saying about Facebook pythoninfinite, it is like having your own mini forum.
I must admit that did give me a little chuckle.
Let's make the new APS something that people look up to. Like the original site was, before all the garbage that contributed to its demise.
Haha, no Jamie. Right thread though. You know who I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure he has a different screen name now.
I still believe it was Facebook, not the keyboard battles, that has diminished the presence on these forums... stubborn old fool that I am !
How about we go 50/50. Hahahaha.
I reckon 60-40 my way... ! Oh OK, 50-50 it is lol.
Ian dishes it out as good as he gets.
Did he ?
Must have been before I joined the hobby or started keeping a few pet lizards.