Green Iguana?

[MrSpike]

Im pretty sure it will never be ok to keep exotics on licence. Their is just no reason to risk the native fauna for the sake of someone having a nicer looking feature in their bedroom.

It has nothing to do with what people want, it's got to do with what people already have. My guess, is that at least around 30% of member's on here keep exotics. There are just as many exotic reptiles being kept illegally as there are natives on license. Something will HAVE to be done to control the amount of exotics in Australia. Look at the system now, how many people are busted? maybe around once every 2 weeks? And there are probably 20 new people keeping exotics every week.

Just my observations.

Kane

 

[Timotei]

It has nothing to do with what people want, it's got to do with what people already have. My guess, is that at least around 30% of member's on here keep exotics. There are just as many exotic reptiles being kept illegally as there are natives on license. Something will HAVE to be done to control the amount of exotics in Australia. Look at the system now, how many people are busted? maybe around once every 2 weeks? And there are probably 20 new people keeping exotics every week.

I think ull find those "observations" are a bit off. There are nowhere NEAR just as many exotics as natives being kept. That's just ridiculous. 30% is also far off. Even 10% is a push. Besides, just because people are neglecting the laws, doesnt mean the government is going to cave.

Where'd u get those stats anyway ? I doubt illegal keepers are going to be sticking their hands up in surveys.

 

[Retic]

It is a shame, Green Iguanas are easily my favourite lizard and make the best pet. We have had several over the years, one of which was close to 6 feet long and like a puppy. We trained one to go back into it's cage to defaecate.

 

[Hawk]

Move to the US and you can pretty much keep whatever you want

 

[jamesr]

I have a feeling when I am older (I'm only 15 now) I will have two houses one for me and one for my lizards... I would spend most of my time in the lizard house though

Anyone know a really really big, colorful (orange, green) native aussie lizard?

im only 14 but i no this 'q' off my hart sense none in australia
we cant risk people releasing them into the wild and killing our natives also we have colour full lizards like-(high orange beardies and lacies arnt really color full but they have nice patterns)i think thats the thing with aussie lizards they just have good patterns not colours (most!) but then we have great snakes like gtp for example and i dont think that other countries have snakes like ours
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[cma_369]

Hey why not get one of these little critters if you want cool colouring:

Probably heaps rare in australian collections i cant wait till im 18 (hopefully there will be some around.)
And dont you say its exotic cause it is wild here, anyone know what it is and where its from and any breeeders. Ever since i came across these on the net at school i want one bad:cry:

 

[Zanejb]

the reason most of our native herps are more plain is because they are in a harsh country. think about it most of our colourfull herps are found in the tropics of north queensland (refering to gren tree pythons and black and gold jungles although their found further down the coast too but you get the picture). Thats not to say we dont have already some colourful herps more readily found just look at the different beardies, water dragons, geckos and what about the Bredli there are some fantastic reds and hypos that are really nice. dont be fooled by exotic species our own native faurna is in a class of its own and we should respect this decision to ban exotics. Think of the exotic deseases we could introduce it wouldnt be safe for our captive and wild animals out there. If a vote ever came for exotics despite how good they are guys the best thing to do would be to vote NO!!!!!!!

 

[jamesr]

Dear God NOOO!!!

Everyone fighting for the introduction of exotics to australia is off their rocker!!!

Australia is one of the FEW countries that has not been completely overrun by exotics! The people campaigning for it are campaigning the identity of Australia away! The problem is that everyone looks at places lyk USA and the UK and says "they've got exotics, they're ok" do u hav any idea how FRAGILE australian ecology really is ?? The specialisation of the fauna and flora of Australia is so major, that the introduction of exotics would obliterate them completely. All u need to do is introduce any similar organism of greater tolerance to abiotic and biotic factors and bang, u've got a pest.

All the pro-exotic ppl shld be put on a ship and shipped 2 somewhere else, where their ecology has already been destroyed.

i agree so soooo much
but i think you can keep exoitcs some how like how do the zoos do it and yeh i dont think that theres that many people that have exotics and not soupsed 2 but i guess theres a few but i think ok 2 keep exotics aslong as u dont relase them and there not deased but if we get rules like that no1s gonna follow them so too bad

 

[Lozza]

emerald monitors are beautiful wish I could have one

 

[cma_369]

We can have em in nsw on 2nd class. Dunno where id be able to track one down when i get to that stage though.

 

[Retic]

What I don't get about this whole argument and I am not getting into the legal/illegal part of it all but why aren't people even allowed to even say an exotic is beautiful without others jumping up and down telling us our animals are the best and there is nothing that compares ? Believe it or not the whole world has amazing animals, my favourite region is South America, I am a huge boa/iguana fan but that apparently makes me a bad man and I should be shipped out of the country LOL.
Appreciate what we have by all means but don't condemn others for seeing beauty in other animals. It is a sign of insecurity.

 

[Zanejb]

I agree with you boa, there are lots of fantastic exotic species and its fine to say how much you love them and how much youd love to own one and i will admit im the same. Im not saying people should go move to other countries or whatever for wanting exotics. I have the same issues without exotics for example state licensing. I see an animal for sale on the net so i check it out in my books and think i wouldnt mind one and find out that i cant keep it in vic and it sucks but ive learnt that its not always what we want that matters although i scratch my head at times and think why do NSW get to keep this animal and i cant here in Vic.

 

[jamesr]

What I don't get about this whole argument and I am not getting into the legal/illegal part of it all but why aren't people even allowed to even say an exotic is beautiful without others jumping up and down telling us our animals are the best and there is nothing that compares ? Believe it or not the whole world has amazing animals, my favourite region is South America, I am a huge boa/iguana fan but that apparently makes me a bad man and I should be shipped out of the country LOL.
Appreciate what we have by all means but don't condemn others for seeing beauty in other animals. It is a sign of insecurity.

ull prob call me a hiprocript but thats true i guess its just that we cant have them cause it will kill the rest and if you really love australias reptiles then you wont have exotices (well usless you have a lince if u can get one) because there **CAN** be sideeffects
thanks for poiting that out boa lol
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[Retic]

James, I am not being personal here but is there any way you can use a spellchecker as your posts are very difficult to follow. Just a friendly suggestion.

 

[Zanejb]

there is a license you can purchase to get exotics (the license that zoos get) but you need to have a genuin purpose for wanting the animals (studies, isolated breeding collony, zoos and parks etc) but as far as i know its really difficult to get and costs a hell of alot.

 

[Lozza]

ull prob call me a hiprocript but thats true i guess its just that we cant have them cause it will kill the rest and if you really love australias reptiles then you wont have exotices (well usless you have a lince if u can get one) because there **CAN** be sideeffects
thanks for poiting that out boa lol
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There is a difference between liking something and wanting something.

 

[moosenoose]

We're killing our own native animals at the rate of knots anyway, and certainly a hell of a lot faster than any exotic species of herp will. We've introduced cats and foxes an toads and bunch of other horrors, why worry about a few more :lol: The bloody things are already in the country by the shipload anyway- get it legislated properly and take the "black" aspect out of an already existent and flourishing market! We're all dancing around and waving our hands trying to stop something that's already here...silly!

 

[Retic]

VERY well said, you hit the nail right on the head.

 

[MrSpike]

Seriously, if you think there are next to none exotic reptiles in Australia you are an idiot. Go to a pet shop, any pet shop, and try to find an exotic breeder you will, may not be the 1st pet shop but there are pet shops that have exotics sitting in tubs out the back.

I don't see the problem with keeping exotics on or off license, seriously. You think that as soon as exotics are made legal automatically there will be thousands destroying our habitat. If anything this will help stop them going into the wild, because instead of someone releasing it because they can't look after it, they will post it in the for sale forum, or give it to there mate.

Didn't mean to offend anyone with this post, but some people really need to pull there heads out of there bum's and sniff the real world.

Kane

 

[cement]

Zoo's with really good attitudes towards the animals welfare are a great place to go and check out exotic animals wether there herps or mammalsor whatever. As a member of AHS i get free admission to The Reptile Park at Somersby, so i just call in there to check out these sort of things. You can stay 20mins or a full day. Any day you want. Its perfect. Speak to some knowledgable ppl. You know what an escaped exotic is called? FERAL. we all know how detrimental ferals can be. Don't be selfish or greedy, find the good in what we've got and protect it. Aussie animals are easily as amazing as you'll find anywhere. This country has pretty well every type of country there is from snow to desert, lets take good care of her.