Kimberley Rock Monitors

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    Well then, I'll have to pick your brain as some of the care sheets I've read completely contradict each other. And yes, I read the VHS article.


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    28C??????? No UVB????? Come on how rediculous can you be??? All you have to do is look at where they live! I'm sitting here shaking my head thinking how could these early piarneres get it so wrong? Was it all small monitors or just gillenii?
     
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    Great photos Bushfire. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Stompsy: The VHS care sheet wasn't the article I was talking about. It was published in Reptiles Australia :) A lot of people read that VHS care sheet and assumed it was the full article.

    Actually, a lot of those people used the UV, but UV is a complete waste of time. I experimented with dragons, skinks and monitors, it never made any difference, even after multiple generations. UV is one of the biggest myths in the international herp hobby. Yes, in some cases they can use it to synthesise vitamin D3, and yes, in the wild it's probably of some importance, but even using the expensive UV tubes, I've never found it to make any difference to captive reptiles, and if you look at what the big breeders do (as opposed to what they say) they don't bother with artificial UV. Dietary D3 supplements are critical in many cases, your herps will die or be really unwell without it. Artificial UV is an expensive waste of time. But no one ever made any money out of not selling UV lighting, so no one has ever bothered to stamp the myth out.

    It was all small monitors. Steve Irwin actually testified under oath in court saying that small monitors were impossible to breed in captivity (arrogantly based on the fact that he was unable to do it), in order to prove someone must have poached theirs, even though they'd actually bred them - it used to be literally considered impossible to breed small monitors in captivity :p Things have changed a lot in the last 20 years. When I first advertised captive bred gilleni in Australia, I had a lot of amazed people calling me, mostly not wanting to buy them, just wanting to talk to me about it. It was really rare and unusual back then. I just copied what the Americans had been doing, bought hatchlings and had them breeding within months.
     
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    Hey Sdaji do you happen to know which issue your Gillen's article was in Reptiles Australia? Or do you have a copy of the article?

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    oh how things can change! ;)
     
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    Hahahahaha!
     
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    She had no choice. It just arrived out of the blue.
     
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    This is true. Both of my Lacey’s have been gifts from Smitti.

    We are currently building a massive enclosure for Enki and I’m hoping he’ll appreciate the massive amount of space he’ll have once we are done.
     
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