Reptile Sales In Shops In NSW
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I agree totally. There's nothing wrong with blabbing for the love of an animal - no matter what it be. I did it not so long ago and National Parks was there the next day.
re Reptile
Hi Mystery,before they were protected in about 74 or 1975 they were just collected and sold,i remember cabramatta pet shop in sydney with alpine blotcheys crowded into wire bird cages,carpets and diamond kept in atrocious conditions.They used to sell diamonds and carpets etc at petersham petshop and the same bloke sold them at a stall in Paddys markets,common blueys 1$ blotchys 2$ capets10$ diamonds 20$ and sometimes theyd charge buy the foot for the really big ones.The bloke that sold them at paddys and petersham was actually a great bushman and he caught many of the diamonds down south coast NSW,i knew a few old bushys that knew him.Reptiles were also often sold in the free adds section of the sunday telegraph,used to be fun seeing what was going on sundays.
Of course there are bad breeders around. But that's no reason to allow petshops to sell reptiles. The bad breeders are a problem, so why make the situation worse?
All I'm saying is that we hear bad stories of petshops, and yet we still want to start that here. Over the years here I've seen threads of Petshops that have dead animals in tanks, cages that are filthy as they haven't been cleaned for ages, and gross mis-advice - salespeople selling Children's Pythons with UV lights because it's essential, or telling the new python owner to vary the snakes diet from mice to include woodies, crix and vegetables.
A friend I work with in Sydney tried to buy a small heatmat for her Hermit crabs recently, and the petshop told her it was illegal for them to sell a heatmat without a thermostat. This is a shop that I know is keen to sell herps.
But it will happen in NSW. Unfortunately.
Hix
I wouldn't buy a dog from a pet store - I certainly wouldn't buy a reptile...
There are very few that I would buy any animal from whatsoever....
...and there are stores in Sydney that have reptiles advertised in their stores (I would imagine one of the employees breeds them) and they are horrendously overpriced animals...
There are very few that I would buy any animal from whatsoever....
...and there are stores in Sydney that have reptiles advertised in their stores (I would imagine one of the employees breeds them) and they are horrendously overpriced animals...
One other thing some of you might want to consider -
It's often said in APS "I have no problem with you having a Diamond X Coastal, as long as you tell people that's what it is when you sell it".
If you sold one to a petshop, and told them what it was, and it looked like a Diamond, what do you think the Petshop will sell it as (espec. when purebred Diamonds usually command a higher price than crosses).
Just something to think about.
Hix
It's often said in APS "I have no problem with you having a Diamond X Coastal, as long as you tell people that's what it is when you sell it".
If you sold one to a petshop, and told them what it was, and it looked like a Diamond, what do you think the Petshop will sell it as (espec. when purebred Diamonds usually command a higher price than crosses).
Just something to think about.
Hix
Yeah your right hix and thats why the policing of it needs to be so heavy. i was talking to this fella recently and when i explained the current process involved in buying reps his response was "it's a lot of work much easier to just go bush and grab your self a snake "
re Reptile
Yeh Hix,thats how it goes,if it looks like a rat it an eats cheese its a rat,some big dealers do exactly what your saying,very few crosses go onto the books as crosses.One other thing some of you might want to consider -
It's often said in APS "I have no problem with you having a Diamond X Coastal, as long as you tell people that's what it is when you sell it".
If you sold one to a petshop, and told them what it was, and it looked like a Diamond, what do you think the Petshop will sell it as (espec. when purebred Diamonds usually command a higher price than crosses).
Just something to think about.
Hix
dickynee-
"I was in a pet shop last week and over heard the guy telling a lady that she needs to put one teaspoon of "baking soda " in her aquarium to raise the ph levels ..not sure what that will do to your fish ....but i do know the advice is wrong."
some fish thrive and live much better in a higher ph! discuss fish for instance breed much better at a ph around 6 with some people keeping them as low as 5.6, not having a go just thought you may find it interesting.
gaara-
Whats even more ludicrous is that Kellyville pets already DOES allow you to purcahse reptiles, though only after participating a "How to keep" 1 hour class or something. Then a few animals (direct from breeders) are available to be purchased. This isn't the stupid part though, the really sad part is that Kellyville Pets labels certain snakes in an interesting fashion. For example: "Psuedo Jungles" and "Honey Jungles"....
hi mate just thought i would mention that do little farm are the ones running the reptile courses through shops. the honey jungles are just an atherton jungle which he sells for 600 and the Psuedo jungles are just a natural interegrade (port macs) which he believes to look like a jungle, they are also roughly 600. his animals are nice but well over priced!!!!! it really anoys me when i see poeple bying athertons for 600 cause they are "honey jungles" i would consider giving 200 but dont rally want them anyway.
"I was in a pet shop last week and over heard the guy telling a lady that she needs to put one teaspoon of "baking soda " in her aquarium to raise the ph levels ..not sure what that will do to your fish ....but i do know the advice is wrong."
some fish thrive and live much better in a higher ph! discuss fish for instance breed much better at a ph around 6 with some people keeping them as low as 5.6, not having a go just thought you may find it interesting.
gaara-
Whats even more ludicrous is that Kellyville pets already DOES allow you to purcahse reptiles, though only after participating a "How to keep" 1 hour class or something. Then a few animals (direct from breeders) are available to be purchased. This isn't the stupid part though, the really sad part is that Kellyville Pets labels certain snakes in an interesting fashion. For example: "Psuedo Jungles" and "Honey Jungles"....
hi mate just thought i would mention that do little farm are the ones running the reptile courses through shops. the honey jungles are just an atherton jungle which he sells for 600 and the Psuedo jungles are just a natural interegrade (port macs) which he believes to look like a jungle, they are also roughly 600. his animals are nice but well over priced!!!!! it really anoys me when i see poeple bying athertons for 600 cause they are "honey jungles" i would consider giving 200 but dont rally want them anyway.
dragons said:
And this is what peevs me off to no end!! Then you get into the live feeding - no UV for the beardies etc. They are too tight to go out and spend a couple of hundred dollars, get a license and do it the right way.
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Troy 1000
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yeh it maybe easier from a pet shop, I don't know other states but the chances of getting a stressed out HErp would significantly increase. As you would have kids tapping on glass and wanting to handle a lot. Our petshops are in shopping centres so it would be loud also .So anyone just starting out may get tagged quite a lot and would turn them away from this style of pet.
whiteyluvsrum
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i would rather buy from private breeder anyday!
Lozza
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I don't think a lot of pet shops in NSW should be able to sell any animals let alone reptiles.
Just look at the conditions they keep their other animals in -they're dodgy as.
Bad pet shops don't shut down, coz they're all about as bad as each other here. At one my local petshops there's a guy claiming to be a reptile specialist and he donsn't know squat about them or products -they're just in it to make a buck and will try to pull the wool over your eyes to do it. Trouble is most of their customers don't know any better so follow their advice.
I'm not bagging out pet shops in other states that do sell reptiles coz I haven't seen them but all the ones here are that I've seen are dodgy and shouldn't be allowed to.
Just look at the conditions they keep their other animals in -they're dodgy as.
Bad pet shops don't shut down, coz they're all about as bad as each other here. At one my local petshops there's a guy claiming to be a reptile specialist and he donsn't know squat about them or products -they're just in it to make a buck and will try to pull the wool over your eyes to do it. Trouble is most of their customers don't know any better so follow their advice.
I'm not bagging out pet shops in other states that do sell reptiles coz I haven't seen them but all the ones here are that I've seen are dodgy and shouldn't be allowed to.
i work at a pet shop and i wouldnt by a herp from a shop even if it was from my shop!! at the end of the day the herps that shops would buy would be the cheapest things they could find!!! and they would sell them for heeps more then they are worth and they wouldnt move at those prices! i personally think its a terrible idea and as i said i work at a pet shop and imo one of the best and cleanest well maintained shop around!!!! and still my answer and opinion is NO!!!
whiteyluvsrum
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3 checks out of 365 days is not much.
Troy 1000
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there is a pet shop at Kellyville that you can buy but it is through a breeder, they also do a course where you can learn to care and handle it who it is also the same breeder.
It does sound like there are some bad ones in NSW by what everyone is saying.
dickyknee
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dickynee-
"I was in a pet shop last week and over heard the guy telling a lady that she needs to put one teaspoon of "baking soda " in her aquarium to raise the ph levels ..not sure what that will do to your fish ....but i do know the advice is wrong."
some fish thrive and live much better in a higher ph! discuss fish for instance breed much better at a ph around 6 with some people keeping them as low as 5.6, not having a go just thought you may find it interesting.
1. you dont use "baking soda " its "bicarb soda "
2 .ph of 6 for discus is not high , its low..... ph 7.2 being neutral .
3. so disucs are not a very good example of fish that thrive in "high " ph .
just thought you may want to know
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