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Jamie, I agree that the above mentioned points (lack of infrastructure, management etc.) are essential for any business (new and old) to be successful and grow. If it is all "what ifs", "could haves" etc. then why do these threads keeping getting bumped or appearing..?

If RA truly is gone, with 0% chance of it ever getting revived/resurrected, then these threads are nothing but a sad reminder of what a great reptile magazine "could have" been, along with a few whinges here and there.
 
Jamie, I agree that the above mentioned points (lack of infrastructure, management etc.) are essential for any business (new and old) to be successful and grow. If it is all "what ifs", "could haves" etc. then why do these threads keeping getting bumped or appearing..?

If RA truly is gone, with 0% chance of it ever getting revived/resurrected, then these threads are nothing but a sad reminder of what a great reptile magazine "could have" been, along with a few whinges here and there.

It has gone Sam, it will never be resurrected unless someone else with deep pockets picks up the wreckage and patches up the damage to the brand. I'm sure it will be evident in due course why it has bitten the dust, but for the moment we have to wait.

It certainly could have been great, but sadly, it never reached first base.

J
 
Ramsayi, Why the large type? Is your computer still showing my posts in larger than normal font? Was it better for a while? Or are you just feeling sensitive about my comment? I would appreciate you at least letting me know the issue.

Blue
 
Mark was only joking Mike... he's got a fabulous sense of humour... lol :)!

J
 
The problem with RA was that given the history of the man at the helm it was more or less doomed to failure from the start, it seemed to be only a matter of time before it all went pear shaped which is exactly what happened. This has nothing to do with my links to S&T's but it was clear to many how things were going to go.

It has gone Sam, it will never be resurrected unless someone else with deep pockets picks up the wreckage and patches up the damage to the brand. I'm sure it will be evident in due course why it has bitten the dust, but for the moment we have to wait.

It certainly could have been great, but sadly, it never reached first base.

J
 
Due to several misleading comments, I think it's time that I set the record straight here regarding our association/disassociation with Reptiles Australasia, although it's really no-one else's business except mine and the person who currently calls himself the 'CEO'.

If we choose to continue to pursue it, we have legal action pending against this person with regard to his actions, so therefore I'll only set out the basic details.

Let me just say this, despite what has been said, the concept for the new magazine was in actual fact mine. I have witnesses, as well as paperwork to prove this. How the current 'CEO' became involved and managed to gain control is part of the whole legal matter and not open for discussion with the general public. The original idea was that RA was to be a 'sister' magazine to Scales & Tails Australia, catering to the other part of the market. It was intended that it would contain the talks from the Symposium that would be held each year, along with scientific articles, and herp photography, and we were going to publish it bi-monthly, in the off month to that of Scales & Tails Australia. It was later decided to make it quarterly instead.

In the early part of 2011, I started speaking with quite a few of my peers in the hobby about our plans, and they too were eagerly awaiting the release of our new magazine. The original release date was set for April 2011. Just to set the record straight further, the layout of the new RA magazine and the very first issue was originally put together by a team made up of the Scales & Tails Australia team (myself, Troy, Denver, Romana, Paula and Jamie) with the addition of the current self appointed 'CEO' of RA. This then became the new RA team. We had the first issue originally down as due for release in April 2011, but this date kept having to be pushed back further and further for different reasons. Jamie (who we had appointed as the editor of the new mag), will verify all this as fact as well because we were both working on it consistently during the early part of 2011...... By the time that the current 'CEO' and Jamie actually flew up to Ipswich for a 'pre release' meeting with Troy, Romana, Paula, and myself in May 2011, just prior to sending the new mag to print, (I was in discussions with a printing company in Brisbane at the time), Romana had it all completed and it just needed a few final bits of tweaking.

It was during this time though that things started to go pear shaped. We were starting to smell a rat and noticing a lot of inconsistencies. We began asking certain relevant questions which weren't being answered to our satisfaction, and things weren't quite adding up the way that they should have been and we were really starting to get nervous!

Bottom line is that, because I was too trusting and naive, and didn't listen to Troy & Denver's advice, the new magazine that was to be the Scales & Tails 'sister' magazine was taken out from under me. For legal reasons, I'm not going into any more details as to how this was done, but in hindsight, thank goodness it was! Otherwise it would have become a worse nightmare for us than it already is.

What's that saying about laying down with dogs....... you get fleas..... well I've learnt my lesson. The only people that I will ever be in any sort of business with from now on will be my own family.

Hopefully this will clear up this matter once and for all.

Cheers
Joy
 
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Thank god that the truth is allowed out to clear up some of this B/S without it being pulled and members of the site being banned.
RA was a great idea and it's a real shame that while the S&T team were putting the first issue together someone 'Now the so called CEO' was instead setting everything up to try and do the sneaky and pinch it all for himself. Nice way to support the hobby.
 
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Im just so glad that the TRUTH is finally being seen and heard by more than just your closest friends... We were there with you all the way watching and admiring you for your genius and determination to make this new venture come true.. Then standing by in support as your dream was stolen from under you.... It was heartbreaking after everything the whole Scales team had put into this magazine to watch it being dragged from your grasp... You all stood tall and held your heads high through the whole messy episode... You never stooped to the level of some, slandering and bitching about them openly... At the end of the day you are definitely the better people for the proffessional way you conducted yourselves.... You have moved forward in leaps and bounds with your current magazine as well as with your new exciting ventures.... Some people are here for the long haul.. others are just fleeting by leaving a destructive trail behind them.... I know who has my support..... Keep up the great work Scales & Tails xxx
 
I think many of us have learned a salutary lesson here - include me in that. I still find it hard to believe how relentlessly naive I was... I must be a tool :(. But I guess I was a useful tool for a while...

Jamie
 
After Joy's post, I've certainly learned something about the character of the people involved with RA. People can make all the excuses they want but the fact that they were able to justify their actions in the first place speaks volumes about their integrity.
 
If that was aimed at me, I'm not, and have not, made any excuses. If I'm in the wrong I'll cop it on the chin. As in most specialist areas, and especially on forums like this, be it dogs, cats, horses or reptiles, there are plenty of haters, and I've got my fair share, gathered over time for one reason or another. I'm not remotely interested in resetting their appreciation parameters - couldn't care less.

Jamie
 
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Finnished now,stop punnishing yourselfs,move on,whats done is done.
 
So, Joy and Troy, if it was your idea to begin with, will you guys be considering attempting this again with a more trustworthy group of people or is it too difficult to start over?
 
Jamie you have appologised to the people that needed to hear it.... Its time now that you stop punishing yourself.... We all learnt some very important things through this.. one being the importance to forgive and move ahead rather than dwell on what was.... There is no need for you to keep saying IM SORRY...... There were so many blinded by this guy and are starting to see his true colors now.... Let is be a lesson learnt and walk with your head held high..... It may take a fool to be sucked in by someones bad ways... but it takes a real person to be able to walk away, appologise and move forward in life....
 
So, Joy and Troy, if it was your idea to begin with, will you guys be considering attempting this again with a more trustworthy group of people or is it too difficult to start over?

exactly what Ive been wondering myself daniel. now that Reptiles Australasia magazine seems to have died after the two issues published, I honestly feel there still a market for a magazine of this type and although both the RA and Scales & Tails were designed to cater to different markets and readers, there would definitely be a cross over with people reading and purchasing both. And if the second magazine catered for a world market then theres a whole new market out there.

So Im also wondering would the Scales & Tails team be considering publishing a second magazine similar in format and content to the Reptiles Australasia magazine (as was Joy's original intention back at the start of his RA magazine)?

maybe even make it available on the net as a PDF download to offset printing and distribution costs. Also any thoughts of distibuting the Scales & Tails magazine as a PDF download as well? Or having a phone application thats so popular these days?
 
Jamie you have appologised to the people that needed to hear it.... Its time now that you stop punishing yourself.... We all learnt some very important things through this.. one being the importance to forgive and move ahead rather than dwell on what was.... There is no need for you to keep saying IM SORRY...... There were so many blinded by this guy and are starting to see his true colors now.... Let is be a lesson learnt and walk with your head held high..... It may take a fool to be sucked in by someones bad ways... but it takes a real person to be able to walk away, appologise and move forward in life....

Yep, I think I've done what I can... but I still feel like a d-i-c-k-h-e-a-d lol:)!!!

That's it for me!

J :)
 
I really liked the sound of the Reptiles Australasia magazine, but i heard of its beginnings through the grapevine so made my decision never to support it by buying or subscribing from the very start.

It would be great if the S&T team could get this going and offer some kind of 'Combo subscription'?

Joy and family, you must be relieved now that you can come out and tell your story.
 
To be honest with you Jamie I was more than a little gobsmacked when i was told you had jumped ship and joined RA given, as I said earlier, the well documented 'dodgy' past of the 'boss'. I am one of the witnesses to the fact that RA was indeed Joys baby and it was in no uncertain terms stolen from her. This sort of behaviour is actually one of the factors that prompted a move as far away as possible from what I see as a toxic sector of the hobby I love.

If that was aimed at me, I'm not, and have not, made any excuses. If I'm in the wrong I'll cop it on the chin. As in most specialist areas, and especially on forums like this, be it dogs, cats, horses or reptiles, there are plenty of haters, and I've got my fair share, gathered over time for one reason or another. I'm not remotely interested in resetting their appreciation parameters - couldn't care less.

Jamie
 
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