please don't play this card, there have been many times where jag breeders don't even know the difference. normals being suspect jags amoung a jag clutch and jags being thought to be normals. you get non jags that look like jags and you get jags that look like non jags. either way if you want to work with jags aslong as your working with the gene and a few nice good quality females with good blood lines behind them...then you can do well and produce some good looking animals, even in the best jungle lines in Australia you get the odd dull snake it might be more unlikely compared to other lines, but at the end of the day your dealing with carpet pythons. i still don't like the fact that people think they have the right to start a thread about someones animals that have been advertised. why don't you ring the person if your not sure instead of creating dought in the mind of potential buyers.