Slithery reptiles sold in NSW pet stores

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  1. News Bot

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    THE NSW government has introduced new rules which will allow pet shops to sell snakes, lizards and turtles for the first time.[​IMG][TABLE] border="0"
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    Published On: 25-Mar-13 09:20 AM
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    "Until now they have only been able to buy pets online or at reptile expos but not at reputable and well-established pet stores. This can be a baffling process for people wanting to take up the hobby."

    lol this statement is a joke, i still rather buy off a breeder or a keeper than any pet shop.
     
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    Pfft! "Well established, reputable pet stores", I can just see it now: here's your new "Honey Jungle", your new tank and make sure you don't forget your heat rock :/
     
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    my local pet shop talked my partner out of buying a heat light and getting a heat rock which in less than 2 months failed and burnt my blue tongue and nearly set the enclosure on fire. as if i would ask them advise or call them reputable.
     
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    I just can't see this ending well. I still plan on buying my snake from a breeder/someone who actually keeps snakes and knows the species.
     
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    In WA we advised against this when the keeping system was first introduced, but the relevant Dept went ahead anyway and permitted pet stores to deal in reptiles from the word go. At first there were a few cowboys and idiots and there probably still are a few, but over time those stores which still specialise in them have improved. In fact, some recruited herpers as staff. Suffice to say those are among the better stores!

    For mine, I'd still prefer it if reptiles were kept out of pet stores, but hey, I guess it's a reflection of the free trade world we live in (unless you want to import pythons to WA - which is still taboo...)
     
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    I think that's a good idea about the store hiring herpers as staff. Maybe all pet stores that plan to sell reptiles should have to hire at least one regular who's actually knowledgeable and experienced with them. I'm pretty sure all the staff at my local pet store would cower and shriek if someone took a snake into their store.
     
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    I like that they have included in the guidlines that there must be a hide for the reptile that will allow total concealment from the public, I just hope all pet shops stick to the requirements
     
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    Like the must be cared for by someone with at l east 3 years exp in species or genus
     
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    I want to know why stimsons or diamonds are allowed considering they would have similar requirements as the ones of the list
     
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    all these rules, i'd like to see them enforced. lol you call them cause someone abuses thier reptiles or is poaching and they do nothing. doubt they will enforce hides and 3 years experience rules. lol

    they also have a code of practise that will be enforced from 2014. how are people who keep pythons that climb in tubs gonna deal with the fact they have to offer sufficient climbing space and climbing accessories.
     
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    I don't know why stimmies were left off the list
    but i hazard a guess that diamonds have been left off because of their abundance in the sydney basin.
    Which could encourage poaching, as reptile ownership becomes the new fad.
    (i owned them before the were cool:shock:)
    they needed the eastern snake neck turtle on the list for the "ooh turtle" factor though...........
     
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    I still don't think it's not good idea, but my local reptile supply store have knowledge I know they keep snake and other reptiles themselves.
     
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    But this is a entire nsw legislation, pretty sure there are spice on the list that would live somewhere in nsw. Doesn't make sense, well to me at least.

    Wonder if jags will get a go under this or any other type of hybrid?
     
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    This is the same as buying a dog or cat. You can get a mix breed from any pet store but if you want a quality pure breed then you see a breeder. This legislation will benefit breeders as now the market is wider and quality will become fewer and further between
     
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    i dont see it being a big problem as long as people research before they purchase. Its no worst than them buying from some random on gumtree (not a breeder) that has no clue about the snake/lizard.
     
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    Just putting it out there: Arent NSW pet shops slowly weening away from selling dogs and cats etc. As a result of things such as puppy farms and such? Wont this potentially encourage the same outcome except with reptiles? (purely reffering to the puppy farms and such that force their animals to live in disgusting conditions etc., not reputable breeders)
     
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    So why did you buy the heat rock then? Why use it if you know better?

    I don't see what the outrage is over? Are you gonna tell me Kellyville, Extreme and The Reptile Shop are from now on gonna dish out bad advice? They all seem to be building a good reputation on great advice based on their knowledge of keeping, I don't see why this would change cos now they can sell something to put in the tanks they've been selling us for years. The conditions set will already weed out those shop owners without 3 years experience (more than many members of this forum that have been vocal on this subject). The need of reptiles in captivity are unique, but certainly not rocket science. I'm sure after 3 years we've all figured out the basics of how to keep our animals alive.
    There are shops that sell reptiles in store in other states that do it well, and others that don't, just like theres good mechanics and bad, good restaurants and bad, etc,etc.
    I love reading the vigilante brigades of APS users, going to expose the shops when they see a sick or 'abused' reptile in stores. What makes someone with a 2,000 forum post count higher and mightier than someone that has to comply with all these conditions, and is going to be routinely checked by the governing authorities? These shop owners are under stricter conditions than us private keepers! One last thing, why assume the pet shop assistant is going to have less knowledge and experience than you? They might be a herp author, have 17 years keeping and breeding experience, a former herp club president or a certified zoo-keeper. They might even be all of the above?
    The sky is not falling.
     
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    hahahaha
     
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