snappy hatchy with no luck in taming

Discussion in 'Australian Snakes' started by Chuckface01, Apr 22, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Chuckface01

    Chuckface01 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sydney, NSW
    I have written a few times about my snappy Stimsons python hatchy Hannibal. He has been here for about 8 weeks and is feeding really well, but is very nervous and snapy around me.

    I havent handled him for about 4 weeks just to see if he can relax in that time. But even if I put my hand in the tank to change his water he will snap and bite me. I have tried putting him on my hands but he completly flipped out and goes flying in all directions. at the moment I have to wait until hes in a hide and then put him in another container to clean.

    He has pletny of hides, and he is in a click clack with a hot side of 32 and a cool side of about 25. This is my first snake so Im really unsure about handling.

    Im happy to wait until hes bigger to try handling again, but I was just thinking ,if i wait and he has basically no human interaction for that long( until hes is a yearlign or so), will he just become feral and harder to tame later on?

    Thanks everyone.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2009
  2. fidzy

    fidzy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2006
    Messages:
    668
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    sydney
    i say keep trying, if you handle regularly, say about 5 minutes every couple of days he should calm down
     
  3. redbellybite

    redbellybite Almost Legendary

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2008
    Messages:
    5,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    QUEENSLAND
    you can not TAME a snake ......
    some will over time TOLERATE being held and 'played' with
    some will never
    the gamble is yours when you get a snake
    best of luck
     
  4. Chuckface01

    Chuckface01 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sydney, NSW
    thanks.ill see how he goes.
     
  5. benmcalpine

    benmcalpine Active Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2008
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    sydney
    You can try putting a tub with a hide in the middle of the lounge room, leave the lid off and watch tv sit back and wait .If you do it a few times a week.it will eventually get comfortable and come out to you and won't feel threatened.
     
  6. Inlandtaipan078

    Inlandtaipan078 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2008
    Messages:
    204
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Gippsland Vic
    Lower the temps;)
     
  7. Timmy-Morelia

    Timmy-Morelia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    qld
  8. Acrochordus

    Acrochordus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Messages:
    626
    Likes Received:
    0
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    NSW, Central Coast
    Just keep trying, patience is the key.
     
  9. Allies_snakes

    Allies_snakes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    602
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Qld
    I have had success with a snappy juvinile spotty by taking him out and putting him in a tree/shrub to cruise around under superivision, then I will hold is back end for a bit, then let him go so he is still happy in the tree, he seems to be happy to let me touch him or hold him with this method. By about 10mins of this he is good to handle. 90% of the time I do this, he is great. 10% of the time he will still grip tight on my arm and then go to latch on. When he latches on he wont let go and I usually have to run his head under water to pry him off, so now, I am onto the signs now of when he is going to bite so I will put him down on the bench or lounge to cruise around for a bit and do the, hold the back end thing on and off again, till he feels like he is ready to be held.
    Its good to try maybe twice a week. I wouldnt recommend every day. The other thing you might have to consider is that he will always be a snappy biter. It could be its temperment and character to be a biter unfortunatley, its not uncommon. Best of luck and keep us up to date with any improvements! Ali.
     
  10. amy5189

    amy5189 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    Messages:
    696
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Brisbane
    lol. my hatchie childrens is a horror. I had him out the first time the other day, and he sat on my hand unmoving for about 5 minutes, then decided he would try and eat me!! The funny part is, is that he's not a striker. He doesn't strike for food, he just goes up and puts it in his mouth, so he was trying to put me in his mouth!!!
    But I am hoping their is hopef or him too. I think once they get used to you they get better, but if you just leave it for ages, its going to not be used to people at all. Cuz thats what happened to my 2 year old coastal. She was never handled by her previous owner, and now when I try to get her out, she isn't used to being touched and shoots around. But at the same time, I can leave my 14 month old coastal for ages without handling and know that she is quiet as anything.
    So it also depends on the snake.

    Sorry that doesn't help much at all does it....
     
  11. Chuckface01

    Chuckface01 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sydney, NSW
    Thanks so much everyone! great advice.

    Ill keep up the handling. Even though the bites dont hurt, its stil a bit of a shock and I really dont want to pull my hand back and send him flying. Ill keep you all posted. Its like a habit to bite me now, practically routine, everytime the hand goes in, the teeth come out...lol

    Thanks again for all the advice!
     
  12. Kersten

    Kersten Suspended Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2006
    Messages:
    2,387
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Gladstone, QLD
    Sorry, I'm going to buck the system here and say that I think it'd be best to leave it be until it's a bit older.
     
  13. whyme

    whyme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    851
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    melbourne
    its a snake. What do you expect:?. And a hatchie at that
     
  14. Chuckface01

    Chuckface01 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sydney, NSW
    how much older would you recommend? I just dont want him to go too long without handling and then be harder to calm down because hes a bigger size.

    Im not in it to have a snake I can just pull out at any moment and pretend that he loves my company. I just want to be able to transfer him from container to container and change his water without recieving a bite everytime or him completly flipping out on me.
     
  15. DA_GRIZ

    DA_GRIZ Very Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    2,408
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    NSW
    have you tryed using a hook to get him out? it may be stressing, just imagine if you where a tiny snake and had a big hand come down and pick your up. if it was me i;d feel stressed etc and bite the crap out of them.

    so maybe get one of those little pocket hooks i use them and are good for hatchies.
     
  16. Slyther83

    Slyther83 Suspended Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    I had this problem with my Bredli recently. I used a hook to pick her up out of the tank (she also would snap at my hands). I would let her hang out on the hook near a heat lamp for a little while and then I'd just sit there holding the hook out in front of me. When the snake would turn around I'd move the hook closer to myself. While sitting down I laid the hook across my legs and she just sat there, she looked ready to strike a few times but eventually calmed down. When she would turn around I would move my hands closer to her on the hook, and eventually she turned around to see my hand right there, licked it, and then crawled over it as if it were a branch. Then when I started moving my arms (because she was used to being moved on the stick) she didn't seem to be worried about me being a threat anymore.

    I'm a newbie snake owner myself, but this has been working for me so far, I haven't been bit, yet.

    Someone on here told me that while it is good to let your snake calm down (assuming thats the cause of her snappiness), you should be careful not to train her to think that if she strikes you wont pick her up. Don't let her get her way like that, I'd start picking her up out of the tank with a hook on a daily basis to start, at the very least. I got mine in my hands the day I took her out with the hook.
     
  17. craig.a.c

    craig.a.c Suspended Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2004
    Messages:
    3,334
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Wagga Wagga, New South Wales, Australia, Australia
    Even though some have said to have patiance, he might not calm down at all.

    I have a had my BHP for about 2 years now and no matter how much handling he gets he still wants to kill me. It all comes down to the snake its self.
     
  18. Chuckface01

    Chuckface01 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Messages:
    286
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sydney, NSW
    Thanks everyone. I try the hook idea. I think it is his personality, but I think he also has the potential to calm down just a little bit. I think he will always be a snappy snake, but it will get better if I handle him more. Again. thankyou all so much!!!!
     
  19. azn4114

    azn4114 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Messages:
    943
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    brisbane
    use a hook,im a newbie also,my stimmie wasnt to nice when i first got it,especially getting it out,once i got the hook it has never attempted to strike again,but i do think mine is kinda placid,its sibling was very nasty
     
  20. edgewing

    edgewing Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2008
    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide, SA
    The hooks are easy to make, I just made mine from a thick coathanger and placed heatshrink over the loop to ensure it doesn't hurt the snake. I have a darwin that has been pretty snappy, tried to eat me everytime I went near her but she has now calmed down considerably. I think it was the sight of a large hand bearing down on her that triggered the defensive strikes.

    Now I get her out on the hook and she will put up with being placed on my hand without striking at all. Patience is good. :)
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page