some elapid picts

[reptilerob]

Awesome photos in this thread!!
I feel a bit second rate sharing these RBBS photos that i took while fishing last year after looking at the RBBS photos on the previous page!!!lol Theres a possibility that these photos may have been posted on here by my wife 12 months ago, but im not 100% sure.

 

[pythons73]

Very nice little Tiger Moose,Those Red Belly pictures ReptileRob are great.....MARK

 

[Jonno from ERD]

Which of the two is the good one?

G'day mate,

The first one is the First Edition hardcover - it generally sells for $50-100 and is out of print. The second one is the revised edition softcover and has a RRP of $35.

 

[Kris]

A young Eastern Brown.

 

[wizz]

love it kris .......

 

[Jonno from ERD]

That's a pretty trick Browny.

 

[Kersten]

That's a pretty trick Browny.

I wish, try as I might I can't get it to fetch or roll over and play dead.

 

[eipper]

Jonno,

There is very good mtdna analysis that was published about 2 years back that shows porphyriacus well outside the other "Pseudechis" clades.

Wuster and others summarised that the only reason for not spilting them out of Pseudechis was for "taxonomic stability"....that is a cop out to not use w & w taxonomy and the politics that go with it.

Cheers,
Scott

 

[Jonno from ERD]

Jonno,

There is very good mtdna analysis that was published about 2 years back that shows porphyriacus well outside the other "Pseudechis" clades.

Wuster and others summarised that the only reason for not spilting them out of Pseudechis was for "taxonomic stability"....that is a cop out to not use w & w taxonomy and the politics that go with it.

Cheers,
Scott

G'day Scott,

Was the genetic research published? Is there any consistent morphometrical differences between P.porphyriachus and the rest of the Pseudechis group?

Cheers

 

[Stefan]

I will quote myself from the page before, I think Eipper means this one...

Here you can find some information on Aussie Elapid taxa... Maybe you allready knew it...

http://biology.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/Publications/2004_OzElapids_MPE.pdf

 

[Hemiaspis]

Jonno,

There is very good mtdna analysis that was published about 2 years back that shows porphyriacus well outside the other "Pseudechis" clades.

Wuster and others summarised that the only reason for not spilting them out of Pseudechis was for "taxonomic stability"....that is a cop out to not use w & w taxonomy and the politics that go with it.

Cheers,
Scott

Hey all,
Taxonomical Politics aside, as a co-author of the paper, I can tell you that the mtDNA and cytochrome B studies we performed on Pseudechis, Oxyuranus and Acanthophis where primarily to determine the relationships and invasion periods between these genera in Aust. & PNG, not to determine the speciation within a genera. Although these results suggested inter-relationships within the various genera, we were not willing to make taxonomical judgements based purely on these results, as the study lacked a detailed morphometric study to compliment the DNA results.

In regards to Pseudechis porphyriacus remaining in Pseudechis, I was under the impression that Pseudechis species shared a distinct hemipenal structure, which is the main argument for retaining Pseudechis as is. (I don't personally agree with the retention of Pseudechis species as it currently stands, however until a complete study is done, P. porphyriacus will probably remain in Pseudechis.

The "Taxonomic Stability" comment, was simply in reference to avoiding making assumptions based on small data-sets, leading to taxonomical confusion. This has sometimes been the case over the last ten years, and the end result is many species described that no-one can accurately tell apart, creating major confusion and "taxonomic instability".

All the Best.

 

[waruikazi]

So what ur really saying is they are all in the same family because their willy's look the same? :lol:

 

[SnakeyTroy]

that is a hot inland taipan!

 

[Benjamin]

Fiercy CB´09

Thanks
Benjamin

 

[Stefan]

Very goog looking specimen Benjamin! Love the black head ot those inlands 8)

 

[ravan]

wow, very nice benjamin

 

[redbellybite]

NICE LITTLE WILD CAUGHT ....as usual firey and full of attitude when he wanted to be ...
released yesterday ,after his traumatic night experience,he got his head firmly stuck under a kitchen bench top ...one of the hardest head scratcher jobs I have come across ,for a while ..but worked that out and got him out in the end ..

And of course who could forget 'FLUFFY" on the couch

 

[pythons73]

Its good to see that the brown has manners,sitting on the couch like a good boy....suppose whos going to argue if he doesnt behave....Top stuff Redbellybite...MARK

 

[pythons73]

Heres some more pictures that ive taken in the past around my area...MARK

 

[moosenoose]

Looks very snug on the couch RBB :lol: