Southern Cross Reptiles Comp.

[Slateman]

Question 10

Can freshly killed female stimulate male to mate?
If yes, why?
If not Why?


Please answer by Wednesday evening18.01.06 to email [email protected]

 

[Slateman]

Answers:
Answer for APS comp #10 by JandC_Reptiles
The answer is YES provided she had been releasing FEREMONES.
Even a shed skin of a female that had been producing feremones can stimulate a male.

Answer from Southy
Yes, If shes in season as she produces pheramones during this period to attract males. You can even use a fresh shed skin off a female that males are interested in to get them to mate with females they are not by rubbing it over them.
The dead snakes dont have to be that fresh as theres reports of male snakes trying to mate with a dead female for a few days in a row.

Answers from Staffsrule
I think a freshly killed female would be able to stimulate a male to mate. Mating (from what I beleive) is triggered when the male cops a smell of a female. Females when ready to mate release pheromones, wich the males smell and that tell him she is ready to rock !! If the female was receptive to males when she was killed she would be emitting pheromones, therefore he would still be able to smell them and would prob have no clue she was dead.

Answers from Junglemad
My answer is Yes, a freshly killed female snake can stimulate a male snake to mate. I refer to studies by Shine 1986 that have discovered that female file snakes can exude a pheromone from their skin to attract up to 12 males at a time. A freshly killed female in breeding condition and in oestrus should still attract a male.

Shine et al 2003 conducted further experiments with garter snakes whereby the skin lipids extracted from females in breeding condition stimulated males to begin courtship behavior with a towel - chin pressing etc.

In a later experiment a freshly killed (by crows apparently cough cough bullshit cough cough) female snake garter snake was tied to a fishing rod and lowered into an outdoor enclosure within range of a male.The females used were less than 24 hours dead and stimulated the males to align along the dead female with their bodies in 12/12 cases of male snakes caught within a den agregation and 9/12 of the males that were caught free ranging.


Points for this question;
Staffsrule 3
Southy 3
JandC_reptiles 3
Junglemad 3

score after 10th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 20 and half
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 15
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 20
junglemad 17 and half
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 8 and half
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. JandC_Reptiles 20 and half
2. junglemad 20 and half
3. southy 20
4. staffsrule 15
5. soulweaver 13



PS. I had to change this result as Junglemad sent me the answer with proof of right date. (Problem with internet)

 

[Slateman]

New questions:


Question 11

Why males have usually thicker tail base than females?
Please answer by Wednesday evening 25.01.06 to email [email protected]



Question 12

Which female snake lay more eggs in general: King Brown or Eastern Brown? and explain why.
Please answer by Wednesday evening 1.02.06 to email [email protected]

 

[Slateman]

Answers question11:
From: staffsrule To: Slateman Posted: Jan 21, 2006 - 02:17 PM Subject: Southern Cross Reptile Comp
I think male snakes have a thicker tail base because of the 2 Hemipenes, the male reproductive organ.

APS COMP #11 by JandC_Reptiles
The base of a males tail is more thicker than a females due to its hemipenes.
The buldge of the hemipenes makes the tail slightly broader & curve in the first 5 sub-caudal scales in comparison to a females tail which is finely tapered at an evenly distrubution.

robbo
hi slateman
my answer for question 11 is
males usually have a thicker tail base than females because that is where the hemipenis is
robbo

Junglemad
Here is my answer to question 11
Many male snakes have a thicker tail base than females because the hemipenes make the tails of males longer and thicker than the tails of females. It is easier to look at a few to see the differences though it is not an infallible method of sexing snakes like probing or popping.
When viewed in profile male tails are generally 50% as thick in the middle as at they base. Female tails are usually 25% as thick a quarter of the tail's length from the base.
These differences are more pronounced in adults of the same species
Junglemad

Southy
male have a thicker tail base due to the 2 hemipenis they have, and id want that extra room too if i had 2
Southy


Points for this question;
Staffsrule 3
Southy 3
JandC_reptiles 3
Junglemad 3
robbo 3

score after 11th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 23 and half
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 18
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 23
junglemad 20 and half
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 11 and half
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. JandC_Reptiles 23 and half
2. junglemad 23 and half
3. southy 23
4. staffsrule 18
5. soulweaver 13

 

[Slateman]

Question 12

Which female snake lay more eggs in general: King Brown or Eastern Brown? and explain why.
More eggs?-eastern Brown
Why?-King Brown have large eggs

Answers question12:
Stafsrule
The Eastern Brown Snake (or common brown) lays more eggs than the King Brown Snake (or Mulga ).
The Eastern Brown laying clutches of 10 - 35 eggs and the King Brown laying clutches of 7 - 20 eggs.
The reason for this is that the King Brown snake is not a brown snake at all but in fact it is a black snake.
Black snakes having smaller clutches in general than Brown snakes.

Southy
eastern brown snakes lay more than the king brown or mulga snake due to the egg size the king brown lays. hatchling easterns avg snout-vent length of 19cm, kings avg snout-vent length of 25cm.


Junglemad
Eastern Browns lay more eggs than King Browns. The Eastern Brown average clutch is around 16 eggs and the King Brown usually lays around 9.
The reason for this are the different reproductive strategies used by both species.Eastern Brown evolution has resulted in a strategy of producing more eggs than King Browns but King Brown hatchlings are twice the size of an Eastern Brown hatchling. The breeding energy of each species has been used either on producing more individuals or on producing fewer larger individuals.

Jand C_Reptiles

The Eastern brown snake averages larger clutches than the King brown snake.
The Eastern brown lays between 10 - 35 eggs while the King brown only lays between 9 - 16 eggs

This is because of the size differences between the eggs.
The king brown lays larger diameter eggs than the Eastern brown.

Of course hatchlings are also larger at birth.
King browns average 25cm in length at hatching while Eastern browns average only 19cm in length at hatching.


Points for this question;
Staffsrule 2.5
Southy 3
JandC_reptiles 3
Junglemad 3


score after 11th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 26 and half
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 20 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 26
junglemad 23 and half
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 11 and half
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. JandC_Reptiles 26 and half
2. junglemad 26 and half
3. southy 26
4. staffsrule 20 and half
5. soulweaver 13

 

[Slateman]

Guestion 13
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name australian snake with recorded largest difference between male and female able to mate sexesfully
Please answer by Wednesday evening 8.02.06 to email [email protected]

 

[Slateman]

Question 13
name australian snake with recorded largest difference between male and female able to mate sexesfully

Only two answers this time.

junglemad
The most extreme size difference that I could find was in a mating pair of filesnakes. The female was ten times larger thatn the female. The male weighed 400 grams and the female was 4 kilograms!


By JandC_Reptiles
I recently submitted my answer being:
The file snake - Arochordus arafurae - has been recorded with the largest size/weight difference between sexes that has successfully mated. The male weighed 400g while the female weighed 4000g.

However after checking the answers that you had posted I noticed my answer was not there even though it was the same as junglemads. I opened my email so as to send you a letter about this and found a "delivery failure notice" as I had posted the wrong email address when submitting my answer. I must have accidently did a typo. Very dissapointed that my email never went through as the truth is I spent days looking online for the answer lol.


score;
Junglemad 3 points


score after 13th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 29 and half
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 20 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 26
junglemad 29 and half
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 11 and half
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 29 and half
2. JandC_Reptiles 29 and half
3. southy 26
4. staffsrule 20 and half
5. soulweaver 13

Guestion 14

Is there known reason for colour variation in australian snakes?
Please answer by Wednesday evening 15.02.06 to email [email protected]

 

[Slateman]

Our question was:
Is there known reason for colour variation in australian snakes?

This question was bit tricky. Our authorities agree that our Australian snakes do have great variety of colour, but the significance of this variation is unnown.
Example is Brown tree snake. range from being brown with blackbands to whitewith red bands.
Sometimes considerable variation is seen even with in a single population.

So there is no definate answer to this question. Yes or No would be same.
Some reason for colours of our snakes are known and many reasons are mystery.

Answers from contestants:

By JandC_Reptiles

I would say yes for several reasons.
.
In captive bred animals it is possible for breeders to mutilate genes to get different variation.
Many specialised morphs are produced this way as has been seen over the years.

In wild populations colour variation may occur for the following circumstances.
CAMOUFLAGE: (for either predation or safety)
Death adders for eg: Have different banding/markings and colour which is determined by thier locality.
Evolution has helped them blend in to thier enviornment. This helps with predation as the death adder is an ambush predator. Other snakes may camoflauge for safety reasons. Some hatchlings for eg: start of rather drab in colour in their early years and do not colour up untill they are alot older & larger.
HEATING: Diamonds for eg: In colder enviornments these snakes exhibit more black than animals from warmer climates which may display more yellow or white etc. This is to help attract warmth from the sun & retain this heat for longer (much like a radiator of an automobile)

Southy
yes there is a reason, these colours camoflage (spelling) well in their environment

Junglemad
Is there any known reason for colour variation in Australian Snakes?

One reason for colour variation has to do with habitat.The greens of tree snakes and the earthy tones of ground dwelling snakes help to camouflage the animal from predation.

Richard Shine noticed in Bandy Bandys that the bright colours act as an optical illusion in the near darkness to confuse a predator. He calls this illusion 'flicker fusion' and explains it as being similar to the way in old movies the spokes of wagon wheels appear to be travelling backwards instead of forwards.He released a Bandy Bandy in his room and treid to catch it without turning on the lights The jerky motions of the snake made it difficult to tell whether the brightly moving bands were travelling forwards or backwards.

Stripes on fast moving snakes can be confusing too for if you focus on the stripe instead of the animal it can seem like the snake is still even though it may be moving along quickly.

Brown Snakes, Taipans and Woma tend to be darker in the winter months than they are in the summer to assist in heating quicker while basking in colder weather.

The Oenpelli python changes from a brown colour in the daytime to a silver grey at dusk to assist with hunting in the moonlight.

The only variation in colour due to sexuality occurs in some seasnakes. The Female Shark Bay seasnake is a dark purplish brown whereas the male is brown without the purple.

Dark colours absorb radiant heat better than lighter colours. The further south you go the blacker diamond pythons become compared to the high yellow of the northern boundary of their range.Tiger snakes found in the southern regions of australia are often black for the same reason.


Points for this answer:
Junglemad 2
JandC_Reptiles 2
Southy 1


score after 14th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 31 and half
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 20 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 27
junglemad 31 and half
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 11 and half
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 31and half
2. JandC_Reptiles 31and half
3. southy 27
4. staffsrule 20 and half
5. soulweaver 13

Guestion 15

Please name the bone to which the fangs are attached
Please answer by Wednesday evening 22.02.06 to email [email protected]

 

[Slateman]

Answers for question 15:



By JandC_Reptiles
A snakes fangs are attached to a bone called the Maxilla (maxillary bone)

Some also call this the dentary bone but this would be politically in-correct.

Robbo
my answer to questio 15 is
the name of the bone to which the fangs are attached is the maxilla , which also support oter small teeth in most elapids

Junglemad
The bone that the fangs are connected to is called the Maxillary Bone.


Points for this answer:
Junglemad 3
JandC_Reptiles 3
Robbo 3


score after 14th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 34 and half
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 20 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 27
junglemad 34 and half
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 14 and half
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 34and half
2. JandC_Reptiles 34and half
3. southy 27
4. staffsrule 20 and half
5. Robbo 14 and half

Guestion 16

Why is snake windpipe able to supply air during feeding of large pray. One should think that windpipe will be squeezed during feeding? Why is always maintaining its shape?
Please answer by Wednesday evening 01.03.06 to email [email protected]

 

[Slateman]

Guestion 16
Why is snake windpipe able to supply air during feeding of large pray. One should think that windpipe will be squeezed during feeding? Why is always maintaining its shape?

Right answer:
A snake can still breath while feeding on a large prey item because the windpipe is strengthened by cartilaginous rings to keep shape and the glottis which can extend from the end of the windpipe out under the food item to keep suppling air to breath

People posted answers with lot of right informations, but I was looking for answer why windpipe don't get squeezed. and cartilaginous rings are the reason.

Answers received.

Junglemad
Snakes are able to breath when eating large prey items because their windpipes are fitted with a snorkel named the glottis or epiglottis which is a muscular extension that extends forward under the prey item. The windpipe doesn't collapse because it is reinforced with cartilage.

Southy
cartilidge around the trachea (breathing tube) of the snake mouth protect it and keep its shape and the tube can move to either side of the mouth or underneath the food to breathe while feeding.The trachea can be pushed forward over the tongue and out the mouth so that the snake can breathe while swallowing.

By JandC_Reptiles
Snakes have a movable windpipe which aids in breathing while eating by moving the glottis/windpipe past the food source so it may still inhale/exhale air. This is also why it holds its shape & is never squeezed or squashed while feeding.
When a snake opens its mouth wide and pulls its tongue back, you
can see a hole down at the bottom of the mouth. This hole is called the
glottis, which is the opening and valve to the trachea, or windpipe. When a
snake breathes, it pulls air into the trachea lung by expanding its rib
cage, and pushes air back out of the lung by contracting its rib cage,
because snakes have no diaphragm (the diaphragm is the large muscle below
our lungs that help us breathe). When a
snake eats large prey its mouth is totally filled and its airway can be
blocked. In order to still breathe, snakes can extend their glottis outward
to the edge of the mouth beneath the prey. This means the snake basically has a
snorkel that it can stick out below its meal so it can still breathe while
eating large food.

Robbo
hi slateman my answer to question 16 is
a snake can still breath while feeding on a large prey item because the windpipe is strengthened by cartilaginous rings to keep shape and the glottis which can extend from the end of the windpipe out under the food item to keep suppling air to breath

Points for this answer:
Junglemad 2.5
JandC_Reptiles 1.5
Robbo 3
Southy 2.5

score after 16th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 36
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 20 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 29 and half
junglemad 37
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 17 and half
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 37
2. JandC_Reptiles 36
3. southy 29 and half
4. staffsrule 20 and half
5. Robbo 17 and half

 

[Slateman]

Question 17

name australian snake which changes colour from brown by day to silver gray by night.
Please answer by Wednesday evening08.03.06 to email [email protected]

 

[Slateman]

New question 18.
Name living family of Australian lizards which are closest relatives of snakes. And name most obvious anatomic feature they have which resemble snakes.

I have this 4 answers to judge. I Just wanted the family which is closest and that should be goannas and the one obvious feature, fork tongue. The answers are more complicated and its starting to become very controversial now. I had to ask for help to judge this 4 answers.

Docrok help was needed this time. This is his answer:
The origin of snakes is very poorly understood and a topic of hot debate by scientists today. There are two general theories; that snakes evolved from terrestrial burrowing lizards; that snakes evolved in the marine environment and migrated back onto land. The first theory is probably the most popular and basically says that snakes evolved from marine reptiles like the mososaurs which are related to the varanids and hence snakes and goannas are closely related. A forked tongue would be the obvious likeness between the two.
It is a generally held view that the pygopods are most closely related to the geckos and I am unaware of a significant body of research that would put them as a close relative of the snakes.


Junglemad
The family of lizards that are the closest relatives of snakesis PYGOPODIDAE.
The obvious anatomic feature is the slender elongated body shape and the absence of forelimbs. The back legs are mere vestiges or flaps.
AS a result of more research later in the week I found that this is perhaps not the totally correct answer. A team from Melbourne led by Bryan Fry (2005)suggests that venomous snakes and lizards share the same ancestor based on DNA analysis. The family outlined in this study as the closest relatives of snakes are the Iguanians. The classic rattlesnake venom toxins are found in the Bearded Dragon!
So i am hedging my bets...if the question is strictly about outward anatomical appearance then my answer is Pygopodidae and the obvious features they share are leglessness and body elongation. If we are talking about molecular phylogeny such as venom and egg teeth then my answer is Agamidae.
Junglemad

Robbo
hi slate man my answer to question 18 is
the closest living family of lizards to snakes in australia is the Varanidae ( goannas ) family
the most obious way they resembale snakes is that they have a deeply forked tounge
robbo


APS comp #18 by JandC_Reptiles
The living family of Australian lizards that is closest related to snakes are Monitors.
The most anatomic feature they have that resembles snakes is their forked tongues.


Southy
family Varanidae. forked tongues resemble snakes the most

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Points for this answer:
Junglemad 0.5
Robbo 2.5
Southy 2.5
JandC_Reptiles 2.5

score after 18th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 38.5
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 20 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 35
junglemad 40
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 23
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 40.5
2. JandC_Reptiles 38.5
3. southy 35.5
5. Robbo 23
4. staffsrule 20.5



New question 19.
Tell me aproximately age of snakes when they stop Growing.

Please answer by Wednesday evening22.03.06 to email [email protected][/size]

Don't post answer here please

 

[Slateman]

New question 19.
Tell me aproximately age of snakes when they stop Growing.

This are the correct answers

Junglemad
Snakes never stop growing, they grow fastest when they are young. This growth rate slows down as the snake gets older but it doesn't stop.


Robbo
hi slateman my answer for question 19 is
snakes stop growing when they die as they usually keep growing throughout there lives just slowing down as they get older


JandC_Reptiles
It is my understanding that snakes never cease growing.
Their growth may slow but they will never completely stop growing.

Staffsrule
I dont think there is an approx age. I have been led to beleive that they (well pythons at least) never stop growing. Their growth rate does slow down as they get older though.

Southy
newer cease growing.


Points for this answer:
Junglemad 3
Robbo 3
staffsrule 3
JandC_Reptiles 3
Southy 3

score after 19th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 41.5
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 23 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 38.5
junglemad 43.5
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 26
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 43.5
2. JandC_Reptiles 41.5
3. southy 38.5
5. Robbo 26
4. staffsrule 23.5



New question 20.
Which Australian snake is the most cold-adopted

Please answer by Wednesday evening29.03.06 to email [email protected][/size]

Don't post answer here please

 

[Slateman]

Question 20 answer
White-lipped snake is the most cold-adopted of all our snakes and occurs above the winter snowline at Mount Kosciuszko.


Junglemad
The snake most adapted to the cold is the Black Tiger Snake, also known as the Island Tiger Snake latin name Notechis ater niger of Reevesby and Roxby Islands south of South Australia.


robbo
my answer for question 20 which australian snake is the most cold-adopted is
white - lipped snake ( drysdalia coronoides )


southy
tasmanain tiger snake


JandC_Reptiles

My answer is the Broad headed snake (Hoplocephalus bungaroides).


Points for this answer:

Robbo 3




score after 20th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 41.5
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 23 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 38.5
junglemad 43.5
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 29
Kahn_10 3
This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 43.5
2. JandC_Reptiles 41.5
3. southy 38.5
5. Robbo 29
4. staffsrule 23.5



New question 21.
What snake is named after defensive posture it adopts when alarmed?

Please answer by Wednesday evening05.04.06 to email [email protected][/size]

Don't post answer here please

 

[Slateman]

My question was: What snake is named after the defensive posture it assumes when alarmed.

I had in mind our australian curl snake as right answer, but after thinking it ower when your answers came , I must say that there is many snakes named after they defensive posture.
I decided to give each player ½ point for each right answer. And 1 extra point for participating. Well done.


Robbo
my answer for question 21 is
curl snake / myall snake ( suta suta )


By JandC_Reptiles.
My answer would be the hooded cobra which displays its caped hood when in a defensive pose.

Also the following 2 animals are also named after their defensive actions but I am not sure if these would qualify to your question of posture.

Rattle snakes use their tail rattle when in defense mode.
Spitting cobras spit venom when in defense mode.

AntaresiaLady
After some searching, I located information that lead me to the answer below:
The Cottonmouth Snake- Agkistrodon piscivorus, is named after the posture it takes when on the defense- it opens its mouth to reveal the inside of it, which led to them being called cottonmouth.
They are quite aggressive by nature, and are a large aquatic venomous snake. They’ve been recorded as getting to approx 6 foot in length.
I’m not sure how good the picture will be- I had to resize it.

junglemad
The Ball Python is named because it curls up into a ball when alarmed
The Rattlesnake is named after the way it rattles its tail when it is alarmed
ThePuff Adder is named after the way it puffs itself up when alarmed
The Cotton Mouth is named after the white inside coluration of its mouth which it opens when alarmed.


Southy
a rattlesnake?

Points for this answer:

Robbo 1.5
JandC_Reptiles 1.5
Antaresia Lady 1.5
Junglemad 2.5
Southy 1



score after 20th round.
steve6610 1
JandC_Reptiles 43
craig.a.c 1
OuZo 3
soulweaver 13
staffsrule 23 and half
Dicco 9 and half
danep 5
munkee 1
newtosnakes 2
jonno 1
southy 39.5
junglemad 46
westaussie 1
olivehydra 10
BUCK 1
Memphis_Tank 1
robbo 30.5
Kahn_10 3
Antaresia Lady 1.5


This people are leading Southern Cross Reptile Competition on APS

Leaders of comp so far:

1. junglemad 46
2. JandC_Reptiles 43
3. southy 39.5
5. Robbo 30.5
4. staffsrule 23.5



New question 22.
Name main reason why hospital staff wait before they actually treat the bite from venomous snake?

Please answer by Wednesday evening12.04.06 to email [email protected][/size]

Please don't post your answers here.

 

[Slateman]

I asked only for Main reason why hospital staff wait before they actually treat the bite from venomous snake

This main reason is: hospital staff wait before they treat a bite from a venomous snake with antivenom is to make sure an envenomation has occurred so that antivenom does not have to be given if there is no need and risk the possible side effects of serum sickness


Robbo
my answer to question 22 is
the main reason why hospital staff wait before they treat a bite from a venomous snake with antivenom is to make sure an envenomation has occurred so that antivenom does not have to be given if there is no need and risk the possible side effects of serum sickness

By JandC_Reptiles.
Hospital staff wait before treating venomous snake bites in order to see what symptons occur in the patient. This way they can determin what species may be responsible and give the appropriate anti-venom treatment.


junglemad
The reason that medical staff wait before they actually treat a venomous snakebite are many. Some bites may be what is called a dry bite where no venom was injected. Some bites may only be a scratch. Some bites may not be a hit from both fangs.Some snakes inject more venom than others, for example an old or sick snake may not inject as much venom as a vital younger specimen. Also this varies from species to species

The main reason I suppose is that patients may have an adverse reaction to snakebite treatment. This is why medical staff observe patients carefully before aggressive treatment. Some people may have an allergic reaction to antivenin, particularly treatments made from injecting a horse. People allergic to horse products may go into anaphylactic shock. This too is rare but not worth the risk on a bite that may not be serious. People who have been treated with antivenin in the past will more than likely be sensitive to horse products for life. Hospitals need to administer a skin test to establish those sensitive and indeed hyper sensitive to antivenin.

Snake bites need to be treated on an individual basis. Signs like pain, swelling and bleeding, along with more complicated reactions such as ecchymosis , necrosis , low blood pressure, and tingling of lips and tongue are symptoms that show the seriousness of a snakebite. Patients exhibiting these symptoms are treated promptly.

Southy
they wait to make sure they don't treat a victim that had a dry bite as that can invenomate them, they also swob the area and do tests to make sure that the snake that bit them, that they get the correct antivenom from the correct snake to treat them
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New question 23.
Do snakes cast off they tails like lizards?

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[Slateman]

There are no chages after question 23. Nobody have the answer right.
There is one aussie snake which cast his tail. It is freshwater snake. Keelback

for referance look at: http://lamington.nrsm.uq.edu.au/Documents/Rept/keelback.htm

New question 24
Name 2 most widespread Australian snakes from Blacksnake family.

 

[Slateman]

question 24
Name 2 most widespread Australian snakes from Blacksnake family.

Answers:

JandC_Reptiles
The Red bellied black snake & the king brown snake AKA mulga

robbo
the two most widespread australian members of the blacksnake family are the king brown (mulga snake) and the red-bellied blacksnake

southy
the black snake family is known as the genus Pseudechis. so the most widespread is the mulga/king brown ( pseudechis australis), and second is the red-bellied black snake ( pseudechis porphriacus).

Junglemad
The most widespread of the Australian blacksnake family are Pseudechis australis and Pseudechis porphyriacus - the Mulga or King Brown and the Red Belly Blacksnake.

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New question 25.
Why is Woma often found with scarring on the body?

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Question 25
Why is Woma often found with scarring on the body?
Answers:

Southy

There has been speculation that these snakes often subdue their prey by pressing it against the wall of a burrow when space will not allow it to constrict in the normal manner. most of the wild caught adults have extensive scarring possibly form prey retaliation.


Robbo

my answer to question 25 is
womas are often found with scarring on their body because of the way they capture their prey in narrow burrows . they try to suffocate it by squashing it against the burrow walls and the prey scratch's and bites the snake trying to get away causing wounds which heal and form scars


By JandC_Reptiles

Womas catch prey in burrows where they push a loop of its body against the animal so it is crushed to death against the side of the burrow. They are scarred from retaliating rodents as this technique doesn�t kill prey as quickly as normal constriction would.

Antaresia Lady
Woma’s are often found with scarring which is thought to be from prey fighting back. It appears mostly in wild caught animals for obvious reasons.

Junglemad
The reason that wildcaught Woma are often found with scarring is that they may suffer from prey retaliation. This is the theory anyway and it makes sense.

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New question 26.
Why is Carpet python more efective to keep rat or mice in the house under controll than cat?

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Right answer 26 is;
A carpet python would be more effective in controlling rodents because a python can access more areas of the roof cavity and inside walls while a cat may not be able to access as many areas. A carpet python will eat every rodent in the nest



By JandC_Reptiles

Pythons have a great sense of smell due to their forked tongue & jacobson organ so I assume they would track & find a mouse alot better than a cat ever could considering a cat would rely mostly on sight.

Stalking ability I would also have to choose a python over a cat, a cat is a great stalker however a python is lower to the ground casting virtually no shadow to spook the rodent as oppossed to a feline that stands alot taller. They also don't have any feet so they do not make any noise by stomping like a cat may (a cat will also crawl to approach its prey at times) Pythons also breath alot less than cats which also enables them to approach prey in a stealthy manner. Pythons can also stalk mice/rats where cats cant EG: ontop of or underneath a wardrobe etc.

Camouflage MAY BE a possibility with a carpet python species, especially if the question is referring to Coastal carpets as the colours & markings may blend into the floor coverings of a home.

Carpet Pythons have heat sensing pits which would aid in making perfectly aimed strikes at its prey. Again the cat would rely on sight only.


IF THE STRIKE WAS UNLUCKY
A snake could follow the rodent due to it releasing chemicals from stressing/being scared and have another attempt at catching the prey item. A cat would lose sight of the rodent and the game would be over for it.


Southy

carpets are better than cats because they will kill faster( they dont play with the mice like cats do), they can reach areas the cat isn't able to get to due to its size eg a snake can get between the walls and in the roof through little holes, cats can only kill what they can get to.snakes kill more than one mouse at a time and i have seen it done where it contricts the one its bitten and contricts another at the same time. another reason why carpets are more effective is most snakes will eat and eat until there is nothing more to eat.


Robbo
hi slateman
my guess for question 26 is
a carpet python is more effective to keep mice and rats under control because it only kills what it eats and dosnt kill anything just for fun like a cat will


Junglemad
A carpet python would be more effective in controlling rodents because a python can access more areas of the roof cavity and inside walls while a cat may not be able to access as many areas. A carpet python will eat every rodent in the nest then return to an ambush position. It will do it quietly without ringing bells.

A carpet python can live in a roof cavity with no need of the running costs of a cat - from food to supplement the rodent intake to vet bills and kitty litter.

I hate cats so i have to add that the python won't scratch your lounge or try to sleaze onto your lap when it feels like it. You won't know that the python is even there. It won't cough up furballs or crap in the garden. It won't bring the dead rodent to you like some absurd sporting trophy, it will dispose of it nicely without playing with its food.



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New question 27.
In the wild, you can see hatchlings from same clutch with completely different colouring. Sometimes some of them are intergrades and some of them not. What can be reason for this?

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