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Last year I did this thread...figured it wasn't being seen after so long and deleted all the pics from Photobucket. Now I'm getting PMed regularly. So, here we go again, but new and updated info and pics.

1. You'll need polystyrene to start with. I got a huge slab of polystyrene from a mate who is a brickie. Its 2.4m x 1.2m x 180mm thick. They use it once as a support for bricking archways and then it's thrown out.
If you go to a supplier (like Clarks etc), you'll find that polystyrene is expensive. My suggestion would be to visit building sites when they are pouring house slabs. You'll generally find excess waffle pods and you should be able to get a few. They'll do the trick as well.
In the pic below, you can see that it's a nice square block of foam; this is crucial as you don't want gaps under/behind the wall for obvious reasons.

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Ive cut a chunk out and cut that down the middle to give me two pieces 90mm thick. These are only demo pieces for a display, so you'll have to cut the ones you need to the appropriate size.

2. Once you have your piece;

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start to shape it. Ive just ripped chunks out with my fingers, shaped it with a rasp and given it a reasonably 'rocky' shape. Worth taking into consideration - whatever you rip out (crevices and rifts etc) will end up a lot less deep/sharp in the end given that it will have 4 coats of mortar over it.
Once you have a basic shape that you are happy with, it's imperative that you seal the face. This kills off the loose surface that'll weaken your wall. You can buy a cheap butane torch (runs off the supplied cigarette lighter) from Bunnings tool section. It also helps the flat areas to look more realistic.

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Showing the square back;

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3. Time to render it. My suggestion is to forget about tile grout altogether. I experimented with it in the beginning and I'm not at all confident that it'd do the job. Not for snakes and certainly not for sharp-clawed lizards.

For this I am simply using a 1:1 mix of fine brickies sand and GP cement.
You should make a fairly liquid mix in a bucket, and, using a 2" cheapy brush, slop it on. Use your brush to stir the mix up frequently so you aren't just applying water!

The first coat will...well, it won't look like a coat! It'll look like a mess;

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Let this coat dry right out. It'll be flakey and fragile. Thicken the next coat a little.

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4. For the third coat, keep the same kind of consistency but add a good squirt of PVA (white) glue. Don't use Bondcrete - it's basically expensive PVA and it will do the same job in this case. It adds strength to the layer plus allows flexibility under stress from heat/cold etc. *No point in spending a fortune on the glue either (Aquadhere etc). Just pick up the cheap stuff from the dollar shops' craft section*

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To get rid of the brush strokes, wait til the render has gone off a bit (lost its sheen), and, using the same brush partially loaded with water, gently dab at it. **Too much water and too heavy a hand will wash the cement out, weakening it substantially**

A 4th coat (following the same steps) should be enough to complete it.

5. Sealing. I use a mix of DTA grout sealer, PVA glue and water. You could easily get away with watered down PVA and use a couple of coats.

6. Painting. This is going to be down to personal taste! The cheap shops will have have the acrylic paints you need - Burnt Umber, Raw Sienna, Yellow and Red Oxides etc etc. All the earthy colours. Google some images to suit the locale of your reptile.
Here's a basecoat;

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Experiment with brushes, sponge etc... this looks rubbish, but :D

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The same method can be used to make hides and water-bowls

These are the hides used for my daughters Spotted hatchy for the past 7mths;

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This is a corner piece display I'm part-way through. The photo is taken with one of the sides glued against a board so it looks askew!

This is a 3-piece, with a ledge etc.

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I'll have some finished pics of the displays shortly.

If you need sand, or polystyrene and you're in Brisbane, let me know and I can help out.
cheers
 
turtle?

are the substanced used safe to put in a turtle tank? your work looks great i cant wait to try it!
 
great work! the pet shops in melb charge a fortune for something you make look so simple, thanks for sharing i will be giving it go for sure.
 
are the substanced used safe to put in a turtle tank? your work looks great i cant wait to try it!

Koalia - I couldn't say for certain, but I'd imagine you'll need a special sealer (pond sealer) before you did it. Your best bet would be to contact a business specialising in that area?
 
They are awesome.. will be stocking up on supplies today to get started :D:D
 
For reasons unknown I have used Render Cement on my prototype fake rock. It seems to have come up ok. I have been told to use "Grout Adhesive" but have not tried this as yet.

Hope to be able to post some pics soon.
 
Oh. . . I used Bondcrete, but would recomend PVA as per Toons advice

Also used oxidisers to colour cement, rather than paint. Even after a few final coates of PVA to seal, the surface is rough allowing good traction for my dragons.
 
Rock 1 & 2

My prototype red rock, should have made smaller.

A Castle theme feature that I am currently working on.
 

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Looking good Tinky - I'd be keen to see the castle once it's done.
Ive actually been experimenting with render too. It's a bit stronger, tho' the sand in the mix is a bit co****.
The render is the Boscote (made by Bostik) 20kg bags for about $10 from Bunnings. Mixed in with a 10:1 mix of water/Bondcrete.
Four coats, and then sealed with a 4:1 mix of the above.

I'll put some new pics up in a day or two.
 
Great thread, tooninoz - very informative.
I'm thinking i want to try my hand at a background for my new enlcosure - it is 820mm high and 900mm wide - so i will want to put some ledges in etc for my jungle to explore to.
Now my question - am i better off installing the ledges first with wood, or would the polystyrene be strong enough?
Thoughts?
Ta.... :)
 
After reading this I decided to make my own rock wall following the guidelines of this thread. I decided to go for a more "Jungle cave" theme. These are a great idea and look awesome in the enclosure....


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The last coat (or 2 coats) of cement you use mix it with lots of pvc glue and that gives it a lot of strength against moisture and heat etc. although I am unsure how this would work with monitors as they has some pretty sharp claws might damage it a bit.
 
if making a wall how long do you wait before adding the reptiles, just once its dry? or wait a couple of days?
 
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